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Analysis of the social unrest, London Aug. 2011

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  • #16
    Replace Benefits with State-Paid Work?

    Well here's a suggestion...

    I believe you can make more money here in the UK from social security benefits than full time work on the minimum wage.

    The UK is currently short of available work. It's short of work because there's not enough cash flowing around to pay workers; not because there's a shortage of work that could use doing.

    Would it be entirely unacceptable to suggest replacing social security benefits with state-paid community work? Workers would be paid for the hours for which they are bothered to turn up and for them there would be no alternative income. It wouldn't cost the stateóbenefits cost the same anyway.

    Those reliant on benefits would be naturally excluded from this idea.

    Separating those reliant from those not is another difficulty and I'm not sure how to address that.

    Is it easy for me in my comfortable, well paid working environment to suggest such a thing? Yes. But I've been there before - between losing a job and find another I cleaned a warehouse floor for a few months earning slightly less than the UK dole.

    (I've just realised I sound like an extreme conservative, but politically I'm actually far out left).

    There must be loads of things practically wrong with this idea... just haven't thought of them yet.
    Ben from UK. Harbeth Super HL5 owner.


    • #17
      Labour market statistics

      The quarterly rise in unemployment occurred mainly among people aged from 18 to 24. The number of unemployed people in this age group rose by 77,000 over the quarter to reach 769,000.



      • #18
        Where is the cash leak?

        Originally posted by BAS-H View Post
        Well here's a suggestion...

        The UK is currently short of available work. It's short of work because there's not enough cash flowing around to pay workers; not because there's a shortage of work that could use doing.
        The interesting question then, if there's not enough cash "flowing around", is where is it going?

        I am personally a strong proponent of the free market, but anything taken to an extreme tends to fall apart. The simple fact is that wealth and power tends to concentrate over time, because once you have it, it becomes ever easier to acquire more of it. But how to keep the money, as you say, "flowing" without going the opposite extreme of over-controlling the economy and destroying creativity and productivity?

        I think one could do worse than approach society as if one were designing a loudspeaker. Everything is tradeoffs. Too much focus on one area will cause a loss in another. But that said, good engineering beats bad every time. And speakers don't design themselves.


        • #19

          Originally posted by EricW View Post
          Sound argument.
          Ben from UK. Harbeth Super HL5 owner.