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"This Harbeth User Group (HUG) is the Manufacturer's own managed forum dedicated to natural sound from microphone to ear, achievable by recognising and controlling the numerous confounding variables that exist along the audio chain. The Harbeth designer's objective is to make loudspeakers that contribute little of themselves to the music passing through them.

Identifying system components for their sonic neutrality should logically proceed from the interpretation and analysis of their technical, objective performance, since deviations from a flat frequency response at any point along the signal chain from microphone to ear is likely to create an audible sonic personality in what you hear. That includes the contribution of the listening room itself. To accurately reproduce the recorded sound, as Harbeth speakers are designed to do, you would be advised to select system components (sources, electronics, cables and so on) that do not color the sound before it reaches the speakers.

For example, the design of and interaction between the hifi amplifier and its speaker load can and potentially will alter the sound balance of what you hear. This may or may not be what you wish to achieve, but on the face of it, any deviation from a flat response - and the frequency balance of tube amplifiers are usually influenced by their speaker load - is a step away from a truly neutral system. HUG has extensively discussed amplifiers and the methods for seeking the most objectively neutral amongst a plethora of available product choices.

HUG specialises in making complex technical matters simple to understand, aiding the identification of audio components likely to maintain a faithful relationship between the recorded sound and the sound you hear. With our heritage of natural sound and pragmatism, HUG cannot be expected to be a place to discuss the selection, approval or endorsement of non-Harbeth system elements selected, knowingly or not, to create a significantly personalised sound. For that you should do your own research and above all, make the effort to visit an Authorised Dealer and listen to your music at your loudness on your loudspeakers through the various offerings there. There is really no on-line substitute for time invested in a dealer's showroom because 'tuning' your system to taste is such a highly personal matter.

Please consider carefully how much you should rely upon and be influenced by the subjective opinions of strangers. Their hearing acuity and taste will be different to yours, as will be their motives and budget, their listening distance, loudness and room treatment, not necessarily leading to appropriate equipment selection and listening satisfaction for you.

If faithfully reproducing the sound intended by the composer, score, conductor and musicians in your home and over Harbeth speakers is your audio dream, then understanding something of the issues likely to fulfill that intention is what this forum has been helping to do since 2006. Welcome!"


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    Using the SEARCH facility

    Hi

    How can I search for 3 letter words?

    I want to search for low level listening as in low volume levels. When I search for just level listening, I get references to the speakers being level or your ear being level with the tweeter etc. Not exactly what I had in mind.

    Searchin on low, by itself, finds no records. Searching on low level, seems to eliminate the low and only gives references to level.

    Am I doing anything wrong? If not, how can this be fixed?

    Jay

  • dogdog
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    Frustration

    +1
    For I'm experiencing exactly the same frustration.

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  • ccyork
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    Thank you

    Originally posted by A.S. View Post
    I have reported these issues to our web master.

    Please be aware that we are obliged, from time to time, to implement security updates/patches/bug fixes into the forum on the recommendation of the coders (third party). Sometimes these updates have consequences which are unpredictable and may only effect the HUG forum. In this particular case, I can see that there is potential frustration, and let's hope we can recover these features and that they have not been deleted by the programmers. It will take a few days to schedule-in this work.
    Thank you, sir!

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  • chirhonix
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    Thanks

    Hi, Alan,

    thank you for the answer and for considering a solution.

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  • A.S.
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    Note taken

    I have reported these issues to our web master.

    Please be aware that we are obliged, from time to time, to implement security updates/patches/bug fixes into the forum on the recommendation of the coders (third party). Sometimes these updates have consequences which are unpredictable and may only effect the HUG forum. In this particular case, I can see that there is potential frustration, and let's hope we can recover these features and that they have not been deleted by the programmers. It will take a few days to schedule-in this work.

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  • Nahtanoj
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    Activity stream

    Originally posted by ccyork View Post
    The key functionality that the Activity Stream is missing is that it does not tell me what I have not already read. So now I have to read through every item in the Activity Stream, and hope that I can guess/remember what the last thing I read was. Then I have to read through all the items after that to see if they are related to threads that I'm following. It was much easier when there was a list of threads that were newly updated since the last time I visited the board. Simple, quick, and easy. Now it's just frustration. Thanks.
    That is exactly the issue. I agree completely.

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  • ccyork
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    Frustration

    The key functionality that the Activity Stream is missing is that it does not tell me what I have not already read. So now I have to read through every item in the Activity Stream, and hope that I can guess/remember what the last thing I read was. Then I have to read through all the items after that to see if they are related to threads that I'm following. It was much easier when there was a list of threads that were newly updated since the last time I visited the board. Simple, quick, and easy. Now it's just frustration. Thanks.

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  • ccyork
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    HUG tweak?

    The old view that we used to get when clicking on "What's New?" was much much much easier to use (for me) than the new activity stream. Could you please bring this old feature back? Is there a way to have the old feature and still maintain the activity stream so that everybody's needs are met?

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  • twan1
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    Show me unread

    [QUOTE=twan1;30114]Any update? To be honest, the "new" activity stream overview plainly sucks. Where is the "unread messages" overview, that every forum board has had for eons?

    Either way, to clarify; I'm talking about the option where you click "show me all unread messages since my last visit" and it shows you all the topics and you can jump to your latest unread reply (which is like most boards work). The current activity stream shows you all messages, with multiple replies for the same topic. That's in my opinion a more crowded overview. I don't see the point of doing things different from a user experience point of view.

    If you really want to be "different", and you've chosen for the activity stream because you think it works better; fine, I'm not arguing against that.

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  • chirhonix
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    Advanced search

    To the moderator: it's your decision. But I too vote for the reenabling of the Advanced Search button. For me it's been very conveniant. I'm not denying the work of the webmaster. But I hope there is no really technical problem with getting the Advanced Search back. Please!

    Let me explain: I used to use the Advanced Search for looking posts not older than one day and then I got a neat list of 3 -4 threads with the latest post. Some of them might be the announcement of the latest Newsletter. Which I would read first of course.

    If I now use the What's new search I get a long list of all the latest posts. For e.g. if there are 3 very active discussions like the ones about Scotland and testing amplifiers there are maybe 20 - 30 posts and I would have to look at each down the list to find the latest I've read. So I would go to the next newest, read that thread and go back to list, scroll down and then again up to find the next unread post in the next thread and so on for maybe one or two other threads.

    For me it's very clumsy. So if there are no great technical obstacles or other important things that let the Advanced Search vanish, please give it back to us.

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  • twan1
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    Updates?

    Originally posted by chirhonix View Post
    To the moderator or site administrator: any news on this topic? Will we getting the Advanced Search button back?
    Any update? To be honest, the "new" activity stream overview plainly sucks. Where is the "unread messages" overview, that every forum board has had for eons?

    {Moderator's comment: It may suck to you but we find it useful. You have not given credit to our webmaster for the hours he slaved to get the Activity stream working properly. I don't recall an unread messages overview and anyway, we're different here and don't follow other 'boards'.}

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  • chirhonix
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    Search

    To the moderator or site administrator: any news on this topic? Will we getting the Advanced Search button back?

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  • EricW
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    New layout

    Originally posted by Nahtanoj View Post
    I've had the exact same issues over the last couple of weeks: the "What's New" button gives you Activity Stream, instead of the list of threads with recent activity, which is much more user friendly (at least for me).

    And "Advanced Search" is gone, so there's no way to reliably summon up the list of threads with recent activity.
    Same here. I much preferred the previous layout. The new one is finicky, and more difficult to search and to navigate.

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  • Nahtanoj
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    Advance search

    I've had the exact same issues over the last couple of weeks: the "What's New" button gives you Activity Stream, instead of the list of threads with recent activity, which is much more user friendly (at least for me).

    And "Advanced Search" is gone, so there's no way to reliably summon up the list of threads with recent activity.

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  • chirhonix
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    Site change?

    Thank you Don Leman,
    but on Linux I have no IE. In Firefox or Chrome I think there is no such option. Maybe in the last 2 to3 weeks there was a change on the site which made that difference that the option to klick the advance search buttom.

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