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"This Harbeth User Group (HUG) is the Manufacturer's own managed forum dedicated to natural sound from microphone to ear, achievable by recognising and controlling the numerous confounding variables that exist along the audio chain. The Harbeth designer's objective is to make loudspeakers that contribute little of themselves to the music passing through them.

Identifying system components for their sonic neutrality should logically proceed from the interpretation and analysis of their technical, objective performance, since deviations from a flat frequency response at any point along the signal chain from microphone to ear is likely to create an audible sonic personality in what you hear. That includes the contribution of the listening room itself. To accurately reproduce the recorded sound, as Harbeth speakers are designed to do, you would be advised to select system components (sources, electronics, cables and so on) that do not color the sound before it reaches the speakers.

For example, the design of and interaction between the hifi amplifier and its speaker load can and potentially will alter the sound balance of what you hear. This may or may not be what you wish to achieve, but on the face of it, any deviation from a flat response - and the frequency balance of tube amplifiers are usually influenced by their speaker load - is a step away from a truly neutral system. HUG has extensively discussed amplifiers and the methods for seeking the most objectively neutral amongst a plethora of available product choices.

HUG specialises in making complex technical matters simple to understand, aiding the identification of audio components likely to maintain a faithful relationship between the recorded sound and the sound you hear. With our heritage of natural sound and pragmatism, HUG cannot be expected to be a place to discuss the selection, approval or endorsement of non-Harbeth system elements selected, knowingly or not, to create a significantly personalised sound. For that you should do your own research and above all, make the effort to visit an Authorised Dealer and listen to your music at your loudness on your loudspeakers through the various offerings there. There is really no on-line substitute for time invested in a dealer's showroom because 'tuning' your system to taste is such a highly personal matter.

Please consider carefully how much you should rely upon and be influenced by the subjective opinions of strangers. Their hearing acuity and taste will be different to yours, as will be their motives and budget, their listening distance, loudness and room treatment, not necessarily leading to appropriate equipment selection and listening satisfaction for you.

If faithfully reproducing the sound intended by the composer, score, conductor and musicians in your home and over Harbeth speakers is your audio dream, then understanding something of the issues likely to fulfill that intention is what this forum has been helping to do since 2006. Welcome!"


Feb. 2018
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Hello from near Toronto

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  • Hello from near Toronto

    I live in Guelph Ontario, not far from Toronto, and look forward to learning from this community. Hopefully I can also contribute something useful.

    F.

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    Welcome Frank! I hope you enjoy being part of the HUG community.
    Emma Smith
    Brand Manager
    Harbeth Audio UK

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    • #3
      Thanks Emma,

      I am already enjoying the HUG and learning from it. I have found its members to be very helpful as I put my "music listening system" together.

      F.

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      • #4
        Hi Frank and welcome to the HUG.

        Which Harbeth do you have or are considering ?

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        • #5
          Thanks Dave, I have bought some 30.1s to use with my Quad 405 mk2 and 44. I am focusing on analog sources, and It should be a very musical system when I get a chance to use it in the next month or so when I move to a new place..

          F.

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          • #6
            Just treat yourself to some digital sources as well, if you want the best sound. BBC Radio 3 is now available online in full cd red book resolution, and apparently e.g. Spotify will soon also stream in full CD quality (use a Chromecast as a streamer - it certainly beats my old Linn LP12).

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            • #7
              Willem,
              I am sure there is lots of good stuff available digitally as things develop technologically, but probably would need a new set of electronics to give these sources their due. Have quite a lot of digital equipment to keep up to date (or not) in other fields, But for playing music peacefully without worrying about all that, I am quite happy with my relatively simple analogue system - (plus an old NAD CD player to play the several CDs that I don't want to abandon).
              F.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by FrankMS View Post
                Willem,
                But for playing music peacefully without worrying about all that, I am quite happy with my relatively simple analogue system -
                Which turntable and phono cartridge do you have?

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                • #9
                  An old Rega with a moving coil, and an even more venerable Thorens with a moving magnet. They are out getting checked over before I put the system together again in my new place.
                  F.

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                  • #10
                    I was in Toronto in 2008 to see Gordon Lightfoot in Concert.
                    Wonderful City. Wonderful people.

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                    • #11
                      Thank you. Gorden Lightfoot is still going!

                      F.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by FrankMS View Post
                        Thank you. Gordon Lightfoot is still going!

                        F.
                        Yes, he came to England last May.

                        I'm afraid he has lost his 'highs' and found singing some of the older songs difficult.

                        He is suffering from Emphysema, due to a lifetime of smoking.

                        I've followed GL since the early '70s. His lyrics are superb.

                        I can always find a line from one of his songs to fit any situation I'm in.

                        There's a line from his song 'I'm Not Supposed to Care' which I send to people when they're going on
                        Holiday.

                        ' I wish you good spaces in the far away places you go '

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                        • #13
                          If I may chime in... There is something about Canadian musical talent that is worth its weight in gold. I mean, some of the most accomplished names in pop/rock are Canadian and I don't mean just L Cohen and J Mitchell. Mine favourite Canadian 'rocker' is Bruce Cockburn. His 'You haven't seen nothing yet' is a marvel. And for those of us who are into jazz certainly worth mentioning is the veritable Paul Bley. This is all super weight category in terms of talent. Of course there countless others... Great coutry by the way - it could teach both Europe and US a lot of things.

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                          • #14
                            If it matters the correct title of Bruce's album, of course, is 'You've never seen everything'.

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                            • #15
                              Yes, the Canadians are just so helpful.
                              Lost in Toronto, I was helped by two most attractive Canadian ladies as I wandered down
                              Yonge Street.
                              As for Niagara Falls.
                              Wow !
                              Last edited by Miles MG; 15-05-2017, 09:07 PM. Reason: The spelling of Yonge St.

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