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"This Harbeth User Group (HUG) is the Manufacturer's own managed forum dedicated to natural sound, realisable by controlling the confounding variables between tthe microphone and the listeners' ears.

For example, the design of and interaction between the hifi amplifier and its speaker load can and potentially will alter the sound balance of what you hear. To reproduce the sounds captured by the recording microphones, as Harbeth speakers are designed to do, you would naturally select system components (sources, electronics, cables and so on) that do not color the sound before it reaches the speakers.

Identifying components for their system neutrality should, logically, start with the interpretation and analysis of their technical, objective performance, as any and every deviation from a measurably flat frequency response at any point along the serial chain from microphone to ear is very likely to cause the total system to have an audible sonic personality. That includes the contribution of the listening room itself.

HUG specialises in making complex technical matters simple to understand, aiding the identification of audio components likely to maintain a faithful relationship between the recorded sound and the sound you hear. With our heritage of natural sound, HUG cannot be really be expected to guide in the selection, approval, endorsement or even discussion of equipment that is intend to introduce a significantly personalised sound to the audio signal chain. For that you should do your own research and above all, make the effort to visit an Authorised Dealer and listen to your music at your loudness on your loudspeakers through the various electronics offered there. There is no on-line substitute for that time investment in a dealer's showroom.

If you desire to intentionally tune your system sound to your personal taste, please consider carefully how much you should rely upon the subjective opinions of strangers. Their hearing acuity and taste will be different to yours, as will be their motives and budget, their listening distance, listening loudness and listening room treatment, not necessarily leading to appropriate equipment selection and listening satisfaction for you.

Alternatively, if faithfully reproducing the sound intended by the composer, score, conductor and musicians over your speakers is your audio dream, then understanding something of the issues likely to fulfill that objective is what this forum has been helping with since 2006. Welcome!"


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  • Recommendable cartridge

    Hi,

    my Rega Planar 3 with RB300 needs new catridge(Denon dl-103R is old now),
    what cartridge do you recommend to me the best for this turntable? Price not too much than 385GBP !

    thanks

  • #2
    In my Rega p5, the Dynavector 10x5 is doing very well.

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    • #3
      I have a Dynavector DV20X high output with my Rega P3 and RB300 arm. Great match! This cartridge is neutral and extremely well balanced, just like the Harbeth.

      Sébastien

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      • #4
        about Benz..!?

        what about Benz? what is the difference with Dynavector?

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        • #5
          For your budget you may do better getting a moving-magnet cartridge. I use an Ortofon 2M Black which is excellent (detail, tone etc.etc.)
          David

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          • #6
            Yes!! why not!! many good reviews have wrote about Nagaoka's cartridges!!

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            • #7
              Stylus Retipping!!

              any comment about this: http://www.sound-smith.com/retip/

              is it worth?

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              • #8
                I have an Ortofon 2m Black on my garrard 401 with SME V and a nagaoka MP500 on my Lenco 88 with SME 3009 II. Both beautiful cartridges. I think I slightly prefer the Ortofon - more rounded sound.

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                • #9
                  I've heard a Benz Silver sound good on a P3.

                  Of course the Rega cartridges are good matches, but they will be much different than your Denon.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by JJack View Post
                    I've heard a Benz Silver sound good on a P3.

                    Of course the Rega cartridges are good matches, but they will be much different than your Denon.
                    Yes! i had Rega Elys before and it was more rhythmical and lively than Denon. Of course, Denon is more detailed than R.Elys and has better micro-dynamics.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by davidlovel View Post
                      For your budget you may do better getting a moving-magnet cartridge. I use an Ortofon 2M Black which is excellent (detail, tone etc.etc.)
                      David
                      Hi David,

                      Does this cartridge has immediacy? if you know what i mean! because i've heard Ortofon 2M Red and that was the only point misses!! And that, for me is very critical!!

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                      • #12
                        hello camel

                        The Ortofon 2M Black is certainly transparent, if this is what you mean by 'immediacy', however it does not push the mid / upper part of the sound spectrum forward which can give false immediacy. While it is not politically correct for this User Group ("All amps and wires sound the same"), the answer to your question could depend on the nature of your amplifier, interconnects and speaker cables [I assume that you are using Harbeth speakers which as we all know are accurate and very transparent]. I've done my best to ensure that these elements are neutral i.e. as accurate as I can judge and I'm very happy with the 'immediacy' with this cartridge in the chain.
                        Hope that helps
                        David

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                        • #13
                          Shure cartridge

                          For our money the MM game plateaued with the 70s V15/III. Doubt anything better is possible? Was recently gifted a very expensive sealed-box MC Ortofon cartridge by a chum and fitted it with great care to my TD125/SME 3009-2. Lifeless, lacking in HF sparkle and removed after a day and the V15/III refitted. Bliss (as far as LP is possible).

                          As a result of this very limited experience, I am highly suspicious about MC cartridges now. It simply wasn't 'high fidelity' as I understand it. Their (then) entry level MM 520 was far more open and as I checked the frequency response virtually a flat line.

                          Curves available if you're interested of various cartridges I measured.
                          Alan A. Shaw
                          Designer, owner
                          Harbeth Audio UK

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                          • #14
                            I largely agree Alan.

                            I looked at frequency responses when buying cartridges. In general the MCs had a high-frequency peak in their responses. As a result I bought the Technics EPC 205 MM cartridge which had the flattest response and superb treble. In my view it was better than the Shure V15 and certainly far better than MC cartridges at sane prices. Unfortunately the Technics is no longer available although replacement / compatible styli are listed. The ones I've tried do not provide the same performance as the original.
                            David

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                            • #15
                              Better than the V15/III which was a dramatic sonic improvement on the V15/II Improved? Really?
                              Alan A. Shaw
                              Designer, owner
                              Harbeth Audio UK

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