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  • Turntable recommendations?

    Any recommendations for a turntable, cartridge and phono stage combo? Budget $1000 - $1500 US. Current system Harbeth C7ES2; Naim Nait 5i; Rega Planet.

    I have an old Technics SL 5200 w/a Sumiko Black Pearl I could access, but am wondering if I could do much better w/the above budget.

  • #2
    If you can get a Rega P7 within your budget, that would be my recommendation. You can get good results using your present Black Pearl to save a few $. If there is any budget remaining, the Naim Stageline is a good phono stage as is the Rega Fono at a lower price.

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    • #3
      I certainly wouldn't contradict hifi_dave's recommendation, but having owned a Rega Planar 3 many years ago, I feel safe in saying that if budget didn't let you go as high as the P7, you'd likely still get a very satisfying musical result with a model lower in the Rega model lineup.

      You could also have a look at the base model Clearaudio, which I think is in your price bracket.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by EricW View Post
        I certainly wouldn't contradict hifi_dave's recommendation, but having owned a Rega Planar 3 many years ago, I feel safe in saying that if budget didn't let you go as high as the P7, you'd likely still get a very satisfying musical result with a model lower in the Rega model lineup.
        Sound advice Eric. Str8fast, here is something that you and everyone will enjoy :

        Mark Plus is a British music aficionado who relishes collecting LPs and producing some excellent sounding videos demonstrating the sound of his Rega Planar 5. He does this on a regular basis and currently has around thirty Rega P5 Plays videos showing off the LP music; for YouTube videos they have surprisingly good audio playback. Mark will on occasion discuss why he uses a particular cartridge for his turntable. If I catch the LP bug I'm going to blame Mark and these videos.

        This sample video will give you an idea how good his videos sound:
        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O8TScOEEAFo&feature=PlayList&p=A1935AAA73A F0131&playnext_from=PL&playnext=1&index=7

        His entire collection of Regar P5 Plays videos can be accessed here
        http://www.youtube.com/results?searc...+P5+Plays&aq=f
        Last edited by Supersnake; 26-04-2010, 04:09 AM. Reason: Replaced the sample video with another.

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        • #5
          To be frank watching Mark Pus videos on Youtube got me into the P5.

          Getting back to the original question, I think $1,500 may not be able to get the OP a full set of P7+phonostage+cartridge. Maybe just enough for the P7.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by hifi_dave View Post
            If you can get a Rega P7 within your budget, that would be my recommendation. You can get good results using your present Black Pearl to save a few $. If there is any budget remaining, the Naim Stageline is a good phono stage as is the Rega Fono at a lower price.
            Any info on Rega vs. Pro Ject at same price point? I'm looking for something new vs used and those two brands seem to be the most widely available.

            As to phono stages, it seems to make sense to go with the lower end Naim, but it needs a separate power supply and may price me out of my budget. Any ideas on other phono stages.

            Trying to do the TT and phono stage new w/in the $1500 budget.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by ryder View Post
              To be frank watching Mark Pus videos on Youtube got me into the P5.

              Getting back to the original question, I think $1,500 may not be able to get the OP a full set of P7+phonostage+cartridge. Maybe just enough for the P7.
              First off, I neglected to thank hifi Dave for his Reply and my bad. Second, thank you to all who have, or may respond. And yes, it seems the $1500 budget is limiting and won't get me into a P7 or maybe even a P5 w/a phono stage. As indicated, I think the TT comes down to which Rega or Pro Ject I can get w/in my budget including a phono stage. That being said, any preferences on Rega vs. Pro Ject and other phono stages such as the Pro Ject; Dynevector; etc?

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              • #8
                Originally posted by str8fast View Post
                Any info on Rega vs. Pro Ject at same price point? I'm looking for something new vs used and those two brands seem to be the most widely available.

                As to phono stages, it seems to make sense to go with the lower end Naim, but it needs a separate power supply and may price me out of my budget. Any ideas on other phono stages.

                Trying to do the TT and phono stage new w/in the $1500 budget.
                FWIW, I would take a Rega P5 over a Pro-Ject 9.1 any day of the week (even though the Rega is ugly as sin). Have you given any thought to perhaps purchasing a demo unit from a reputable dealer? This way, you can save quite a bit without having to sacrifice the warranty or dealer support. In addition, this would allow you to consider turntables that were previously beyond your budget...

                For instance, I recently purchased a demo J.A. Michell TecnoDec with full warranty, for approximately 55% of the MSRP. As an added bonus, I also received a demo cartridge and Michell clamp at no additional cost. If I had limited myself to only purchasing new, I would have never been able to afford the TecnoDec. As I see it, purchasing a demo unit is the most sensible strategy - the savings are comparable to purchasing used, but without the added risk. Keep in mind, though, that I had to wait for the turntable to come to market (which took some patience). In the end, however, I'm completely satisfied with the sound... and my system is also very similar to yours (P3ESR/Nait 5i/Pro-Ject Tube Box II). Given that phono pre-amps require very little finesse, comparatively speaking, I would suggest you purchase one used. You could then put the savings toward the purchase of the turntable, thus maximizing your dollar.

                Just something to think about, anyway...

                EDIT:
                Forgot to mention that I paid 55% of the MSRP, with the trade-in of an entry level Pro-Ject turntable. This actually reminded me of yet another option. You can purchase an entry-level Rega or Pro-Ject now, saving until funds permit you to purchase something a bit better. The beauty about entry-level Rega and Pro-Ject is that, aside from their plug n' play simplicity, they hold their resale value extremely well.

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                • #9
                  Hi,

                  I have a Rega P3 since 2006. I really like it. Also, there is a friend of mine who own the P3-24 and he is more than satisfied with it.

                  For cartridge, I can suggest you something like an Ortofon Samba, a Dynavector 10X5 or a Denon DL-103.

                  Then, for the phono pre-amplifier, you have the Simaudio Moon LP3 or the Bellari VP 130 (moving magnet only).

                  With these components, you can be set for a new set-up in your price range.

                  Finally, as someone already said, used market is to be consider.

                  Sebastien

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                  • #10
                    You really can't go wrong with a Rega - get the best you can for your money P5 or P7 and use the Black Pearl and a Rega Fono Mini stage. If you can get a lightly used demo model you will save money and still have great back up.

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                    • #11
                      I think even the Roksan Radius is worth considering maybe?

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                      • #12
                        Shure V15 picup cartridge

                        About pickup cartridges, there is only one piece of hi-fi equipment that I still have a small yearning for - a Shure V15 V cartridge. I had (have) a V15 III and the unique designeof the magnetic system gives it the flattest frequency response of any cartridge I've ever checked. To my ears, it is just the ultimate in natural sound and incredible tracking ability. That was the Type 3 - by all accounts the type 5 should be the last word in pickup design.

                        I never really bought-into the MC thing. The tracking weights are (were) high, the output low, distortion seemed high and the frequency response just not flat with a drooping (hence muffled) top end. However, a few years back having not played vinyl for years, I swapped the V15 for a fancy Ortofon MC, used it for a while marvelling what I'd been missing although it didn't seem to have as much sparkle as I remembered the best vinyl had.

                        When out of curiosity I swapped back to my 30 year old V15-3 I really appreciated how exquisite the V15-3 really was (is). It was far more natural sounding in every way with a clean, sweet extended top. If you can find a V15-3 (not the V15-2 that's a totally different beast) then I'd suggest that you stop your cartridge search right there and then.
                        Alan A. Shaw
                        Designer, owner
                        Harbeth Audio UK

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                        • #13
                          Guys,
                          I caught the train just before leaving the last station, that was a few years ago, and bought a V-15 (last model) with replacement stylus. I also did the same and bought a Stanton 881Mk2S, also with replacement stylus. I use the V-15 for fine LPs' playback of mostly classical and Jazz, while the 881 gets busy with recording LP material to digital formats. They both perform excellent, and I never was for a moment doubtful of using them instead of any MC cartridge. They are both lovely, rigid, with an excellent output, easily and beautifully matching any decent phono stage, easy to clean and regulate on the tonearm. And they both produce absolutely no headache in case of any stylus accident... If you don't mind, I'll live happy enough, enjoying the versatility and excellent value for money these MMs offer me, for a lifetime.
                          Cheers,
                          thanos
                          Last edited by Thanos; 27-04-2010, 02:48 AM. Reason: add/spell

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by A.S. View Post
                            About pickup cartridges, there is only one piece of hi-fi equipment that I still have a small yearning for - a Shure V15 V cartridge. I had (have) a V15 III and the unique designeof the magnetic system gives it the flattest frequency response of any cartridge I've ever checked. To my ears, it is just the ultimate in natural sound and incredible tracking ability. That was the Type 3 - by all accounts the type 5 should be the last word in pickup design.

                            I never really bought-into the MC thing. The tracking weights are (were) high, the output low, distortion seemed high and the frequency response just not flat with a drooping (hence muffled) top end. However, a few years back having not played vinyl for years, I swapped the V15 for a fancy Ortofon MC, used it for a while marvelling what I'd been missing although it didn't seem to have as much sparkle as I remembered the best vinyl had.

                            When out of curiosity I swapped back to my 30 year old V15-3 I really appreciated how exquisite the V15-3 really was (is). It was far more natural sounding in every way with a clean, sweet extended top. If you can find a V15-3 (not the V15-2 that's a totally different beast) then I'd suggest that you stop your cartridge search right there and then.
                            Thank you and others for your responses. Its great to be able to hear directly from you and while I have the opportunity I'd like to say that I thoroughly enjoy my Compact 7ES2's. One day I hope to get a pair of P3esr's to pair with the Nait5i in the small den I have and then get some upgraded electronics for use with the 7's in my somewhat larger living room.

                            Interestingly enough, my father has a the V15 Type V and loves it. I like it as well, but haven't really sat down and listened, nor compared it to anything else. He's also got an unused in the box Stanton 681EEE which I might give a try when I get the other hardware nailed down.

                            I have an opportunity to go for a Roksan Radius TT and a Basis 2001 I believe, but I've got to confirm the model. Both have a modified Rega tonearm and are significantly above my budget, especially the Basis. I'm seriously considering the Basis if its the right model and I can get a good enough deal. Including the cartridge and phono stage it will more than double my $1500 budget and I've got to leave some $ for records.

                            There seem to be some real good phono stages in all budget ranges including by Dynavector and Lehmann; and there are plenty of highly recommended cartridges at various price points as well, but first I'll check out my father's Stanton; look for a Shure V15 Type III or V on line; or maybe just poach my dad's Type V!

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by str8fast View Post
                              There seem to be some real good phono stages in all budget ranges including by Dynavector and Lehmann; and there are plenty of highly recommended cartridges at various price points as well, but first I'll check out my father's Stanton; look for a Shure V15 Type III or V on line; or maybe just poach my dad's Type V!
                              Check out Trigon Vanguard II. Its a cracker of a phono stage & very affordable. I currently run it with AT-33PTG cart & its a very good combination.

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