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For example, the design of and interaction between the hifi amplifier and its speaker load can and potentially will alter the sound balance of what you hear. To reproduce the sounds captured by the recording microphones, as Harbeth speakers are designed to do, you would naturally select system components (sources, electronics, cables and so on) that do not color the sound before it reaches the speakers.

Identifying components for their system neutrality should, logically, start with the interpretation and analysis of their technical, objective performance, as any and every deviation from a measurably flat frequency response at any point along the serial chain from microphone to ear is very likely to cause the total system to have an audible sonic personality. That includes the contribution of the listening room itself.

HUG specialises in making complex technical matters simple to understand, aiding the identification of audio components likely to maintain a faithful relationship between the recorded sound and the sound you hear. With our heritage of natural sound, HUG cannot be really be expected to guide in the selection, approval, endorsement or even discussion of equipment that is intend to introduce a significantly personalised sound to the audio signal chain. For that you should do your own research and above all, make the effort to visit an Authorised Dealer and listen to your music at your loudness on your loudspeakers through the various electronics offered there. There is no on-line substitute for that time investment in a dealer's showroom.

If you desire to intentionally tune your system sound to your personal taste, please consider carefully how much you should rely upon the subjective opinions of strangers. Their hearing acuity and taste will be different to yours, as will be their motives and budget, their listening distance, listening loudness and listening room treatment, not necessarily leading to appropriate equipment selection and listening satisfaction for you.

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The truth about bi-wiring and bi-amping?

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  • The truth about bi-wiring and bi-amping?

    This thread is concerned with bi-wiring and bi-amping.

  • #2
    Bunk and Debunk

    As I've posted before, my opinion FWIW is that bi-wiring does nothing to improve SQ.

    What matters is having suitable (shielded) speaker cable of appropriately thick gauge, which depends on the length of the run. I have a 25 foot run and I use inexpensive copper Canare style cable (14 AWG, which equates to 11 AWG when not bi-wired).


    • #3
      There's sometimes a difference

      I can't offer an explanation, but my observations with biwiring Proac speakers demonstrated a difference in sound. I'd have been confident nailing the difference in a double-blind. I observe no difference whether bi or single wiring my current ES2s (so I stick with single). I suspect a difference in cross-over design concept.
      Ben from UK. Harbeth Super HL5 owner.


      • #4
        Biwiring at the crossover design stage?

        BASH raises an interesting point. I know nothing of speaker / cross-over design, but it makes sense that such design could affect the merits of bi-wiring. What does NOT make sense to me, however, is why a manufacturer would implement such a design. More to the point, why would a speaker maker want his or her product to sound better one way or the other. Surely he or she knows that not everyone will bi-wire and that many customers don't even know what bi-wiring is.