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"This Harbeth User Group (HUG) is the Manufacturer's own managed forum dedicated to natural sound, realisable by controlling the confounding variables between tthe microphone and the listeners' ears.

For example, the design of and interaction between the hifi amplifier and its speaker load can and potentially will alter the sound balance of what you hear. To reproduce the sounds captured by the recording microphones, as Harbeth speakers are designed to do, you would naturally select system components (sources, electronics, cables and so on) that do not color the sound before it reaches the speakers.

Identifying components for their system neutrality should, logically, start with the interpretation and analysis of their technical, objective performance, as any and every deviation from a measurably flat frequency response at any point along the serial chain from microphone to ear is very likely to cause the total system to have an audible sonic personality. That includes the contribution of the listening room itself.

HUG specialises in making complex technical matters simple to understand, aiding the identification of audio components likely to maintain a faithful relationship between the recorded sound and the sound you hear. With our heritage of natural sound, HUG cannot be really be expected to guide in the selection, approval, endorsement or even discussion of equipment that is intend to introduce a significantly personalised sound to the audio signal chain. For that you should do your own research and above all, make the effort to visit an Authorised Dealer and listen to your music at your loudness on your loudspeakers through the various electronics offered there. There is no on-line substitute for that time investment in a dealer's showroom.

If you desire to intentionally tune your system sound to your personal taste, please consider carefully how much you should rely upon the subjective opinions of strangers. Their hearing acuity and taste will be different to yours, as will be their motives and budget, their listening distance, listening loudness and listening room treatment, not necessarily leading to appropriate equipment selection and listening satisfaction for you.

Alternatively, if faithfully reproducing the sound intended by the composer, score, conductor and musicians over your speakers is your audio dream, then understanding something of the issues likely to fulfill that objective is what this forum has been helping with since 2006. Welcome!"


Jan. 2018
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DIN vs RCA connectors - technical advantage?

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  • #16
    BNT .... a balanced BNC

    Originally posted by A.S. View Post
    What he meant was BNT - yes, you'll never have heard of it.
    Ah yes, I knew that beastie existed, nice double screening. Never seen one.

    http://www.hubersuhner.com/mozilla/h...-gr-series-bnt

    Double screened - now if the lads at CERN were using those, perhaps the speed of light would not be in question!


    My advice is stick with phono!
    Do we have a choice? The big boys make the decisions.

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    • #17
      Who solder their own interconnects?

      Originally posted by A.S. View Post
      ...buying an off-the-shelf BNC lead is one matter. But have you actually tried to assemble/solder a BNC connector yourself at your own pace let alone under Klingon attack?
      "I cannae patch the phaser power to the shiels cap'n till I make up another BNC lead"

      But apart from you and Mr Scott, how many people do you know who solder up their own interconnects?

      Incidentally, another thing about properly made BNC plugs is that they are far easier to make up than many average phono plugs provided you cut the coax to the correct dimensions. The pin removes to make it accessible for soldering (no heating up the pin in situ to make the solder flow down it - damn, softened the plastic insulation and now the pin is eccentric).

      A phono plug could easily be made on the same principle but they are too busy making the plugs "sound good", than sensible to solder.

      Originally posted by A.S. View Post
      What [HUG1] meant was BNT
      That makes more sense, as well as conforming to B&K's typical behaviour of using components nobody has ever heard of. The very thought of wiring a triaxial connector sounds like a puzzle out of Alice in Wonderland!

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      • #18
        Oh what a horrible mess

        Originally posted by Pluto View Post
        ...Incidentally, another thing about properly made BNC plugs is that they are far easier to make up than many average phono plugs provided you cut the coax to the correct dimensions. The pin removes to make it accessible for soldering (no heating up the pin in situ to make the solder flow down it ...
        Oh what a wag you are, Pluto! And who holds that horrible little pin eh? You know, the one with the microscopic channel into which you should attempt to position the core which completely chokes with solder (always tin the joint before soldering - right?) leaving nowhere for the core to fit .... . Result: core insulation sheath starts to melt as you try again and again to crudely solder the core *anywhere* onto the rim of the pin at any jaunty angle possible accompanied by the unmistakeable smell .....

        Always check that the nearest A&E are open before attempting such madness.

        Nope. Phono is vastly superior in every way!
        Alan A. Shaw
        Designer, owner
        Harbeth Audio UK

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