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"This Harbeth User Group (HUG) is the Manufacturer's own managed forum dedicated to natural sound, realisable by controlling the confounding variables between tthe microphone and the listeners' ears.

For example, the design of and interaction between the hifi amplifier and its speaker load can and potentially will alter the sound balance of what you hear. To reproduce the sounds captured by the recording microphones, as Harbeth speakers are designed to do, you would naturally select system components (sources, electronics, cables and so on) that do not color the sound before it reaches the speakers.

Identifying components for their system neutrality should, logically, start with the interpretation and analysis of their technical, objective performance, as any and every deviation from a measurably flat frequency response at any point along the serial chain from microphone to ear is very likely to cause the total system to have an audible sonic personality. That includes the contribution of the listening room itself.

HUG specialises in making complex technical matters simple to understand, aiding the identification of audio components likely to maintain a faithful relationship between the recorded sound and the sound you hear. With our heritage of natural sound, HUG cannot be really be expected to guide in the selection, approval, endorsement or even discussion of equipment that is intend to introduce a significantly personalised sound to the audio signal chain. For that you should do your own research and above all, make the effort to visit an Authorised Dealer and listen to your music at your loudness on your loudspeakers through the various electronics offered there. There is no on-line substitute for that time investment in a dealer's showroom.

If you desire to intentionally tune your system sound to your personal taste, please consider carefully how much you should rely upon the subjective opinions of strangers. Their hearing acuity and taste will be different to yours, as will be their motives and budget, their listening distance, listening loudness and listening room treatment, not necessarily leading to appropriate equipment selection and listening satisfaction for you.

Alternatively, if faithfully reproducing the sound intended by the composer, score, conductor and musicians over your speakers is your audio dream, then understanding something of the issues likely to fulfill that objective is what this forum has been helping with since 2006. Welcome!"

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The truth about high-resolution audio compared with std. CD 44k?

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  • #61
    Blocking cellphones in-class

    Originally posted by jplaurel View Post
    It turns out that the kids didn't turn their ringers off at all. They merely switched to high frequency ringtones above the threshold of the teachers' hearing. A very simple and clever solution.
    I think the teacher needs to acquire one of these ;-)


    • #62
      No hum

      I inherited eleven year old Soundsticks from my daughters college system. After sitting in storage for several years, I connected them to my new Mac Mini ('10). They are amazing for very near field listening. There is no hum whatsoever. I have considered upgrading to separate amp and DAC with P3's. The cost would be about $4,000, so for now I will listen to this surprising system. Perhaps, Harbeth could improve on a compact desktop system. I'm sure that this is potentially a huge market.

      My main system;

      Compact 7ES3
      REL B3
      LFD MK IV
      SONY CDP 5400ES, VSE mods
      Shunyata PC, Cardas cables


      • #63
        Originally posted by Drdennis View Post
        I inherited eleven year old Soundsticks from my daughters college system...
        Are they active i.e. mains powered?

        The hum in these (active) pc speakers comes from the internal mains power supply and/or the transformer causing the plastic case to vibrate.


        • #64
          Soundsticks - outboard PSU

          Soundsticks have an outboard power supply connected to mains.


          • #65

            Originally posted by jplaurel View Post
            {Moderator's comment: did they like most PC speakers emit a constant hummmmmmmm?}
            No, they did not. The newer "Soundsticks II" version, however, are a step backward. They no longer have the integrated DAC. Instead, you plug a 2.5mm stereo mini jack into your sound card. And they do hummmmmm.


            • #66
              I have a few 24/96 (flac) albums I've down loaded from the Linn site. Realistically, I think it has more to do with the better mastering of these albums, than bit depth. I have many Redbook CD's that sound phenominal--so I know the potential is there. I haven't tried it, but my gut feeling is that if you downloaded the same album in both 16/44 and 24/96 (assuming good mastering), you'd be hard pressed to tell a difference.


              • #67
                Relevance of high res audio

                Reviving this old but ever so relevant thread, I came across this article on the irrelevance or even disadvantages of Hi Res audio:


                • #68
                  Useless comparisons

                  A good article I think, for me audio resolutions is about the same as megapixels with camera's. In most cases it will tell you nothing about the quality of the recording..

                  Bothering about 16/44 or 24/96 is like judging the same Merlot in the same glass, the second sip is always different.