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Since its inception ten years ago, the Harbeth User Group's ambition has been to create a lasting knowledge archive. Knowledge is based on facts and observations. Knowledge is timeless. Knowledge is human independent and replicatable. However, we live in new world where thanks to social media, 'facts' have become flexible and personal. HUG operates in that real world.

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The truth about high-resolution audio compared with std. CD 44k?

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  • #61
    Blocking cellphones in-class

    Originally posted by jplaurel View Post
    It turns out that the kids didn't turn their ringers off at all. They merely switched to high frequency ringtones above the threshold of the teachers' hearing. A very simple and clever solution.
    I think the teacher needs to acquire one of these ;-)

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    • #62
      No hum

      I inherited eleven year old Soundsticks from my daughters college system. After sitting in storage for several years, I connected them to my new Mac Mini ('10). They are amazing for very near field listening. There is no hum whatsoever. I have considered upgrading to separate amp and DAC with P3's. The cost would be about $4,000, so for now I will listen to this surprising system. Perhaps, Harbeth could improve on a compact desktop system. I'm sure that this is potentially a huge market.

      My main system;

      Compact 7ES3
      REL B3
      LFD MK IV
      SONY CDP 5400ES, VSE mods
      Shunyata PC, Cardas cables

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      • #63
        Originally posted by Drdennis View Post
        I inherited eleven year old Soundsticks from my daughters college system...
        Are they active i.e. mains powered?

        The hum in these (active) pc speakers comes from the internal mains power supply and/or the transformer causing the plastic case to vibrate.

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        • #64
          Soundsticks - outboard PSU

          Soundsticks have an outboard power supply connected to mains.

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          • #65
            Hummmmmmmmmmmm

            Originally posted by jplaurel View Post
            {Moderator's comment: did they like most PC speakers emit a constant hummmmmmmm?}
            No, they did not. The newer "Soundsticks II" version, however, are a step backward. They no longer have the integrated DAC. Instead, you plug a 2.5mm stereo mini jack into your sound card. And they do hummmmmm.

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            • #66
              I have a few 24/96 (flac) albums I've down loaded from the Linn site. Realistically, I think it has more to do with the better mastering of these albums, than bit depth. I have many Redbook CD's that sound phenominal--so I know the potential is there. I haven't tried it, but my gut feeling is that if you downloaded the same album in both 16/44 and 24/96 (assuming good mastering), you'd be hard pressed to tell a difference.

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              • #67
                Relevance of high res audio

                Reviving this old but ever so relevant thread, I came across this article on the irrelevance or even disadvantages of Hi Res audio: https://xiph.org/~xiphmont/demo/neil-young.html

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                • #68
                  Useless comparisons

                  A good article I think, for me audio resolutions is about the same as megapixels with camera's. In most cases it will tell you nothing about the quality of the recording..

                  Bothering about 16/44 or 24/96 is like judging the same Merlot in the same glass, the second sip is always different.

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