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INTRODUCTION- PLEASE READ FIRST TO UNDERSTAND THIS FORUM!

"This Harbeth User Group (HUG) is the Manufacturer's own managed forum dedicated to natural sound, realisable by controlling the confounding variables between tthe microphone and the listeners' ears.

For example, the design of and interaction between the hifi amplifier and its speaker load can and potentially will alter the sound balance of what you hear. To reproduce the sounds captured by the recording microphones, as Harbeth speakers are designed to do, you would naturally select system components (sources, electronics, cables and so on) that do not color the sound before it reaches the speakers.

Identifying components for their system neutrality should, logically, start with the interpretation and analysis of their technical, objective performance, as any and every deviation from a measurably flat frequency response at any point along the serial chain from microphone to ear is very likely to cause the total system to have an audible sonic personality. That includes the contribution of the listening room itself.

HUG specialises in making complex technical matters simple to understand, aiding the identification of audio components likely to maintain a faithful relationship between the recorded sound and the sound you hear. With our heritage of natural sound, HUG cannot be really be expected to guide in the selection, approval, endorsement or even discussion of equipment that is intend to introduce a significantly personalised sound to the audio signal chain. For that you should do your own research and above all, make the effort to visit an Authorised Dealer and listen to your music at your loudness on your loudspeakers through the various electronics offered there. There is no on-line substitute for that time investment in a dealer's showroom.

If you desire to intentionally tune your system sound to your personal taste, please consider carefully how much you should rely upon the subjective opinions of strangers. Their hearing acuity and taste will be different to yours, as will be their motives and budget, their listening distance, listening loudness and listening room treatment, not necessarily leading to appropriate equipment selection and listening satisfaction for you.

Alternatively, if faithfully reproducing the sound intended by the composer, score, conductor and musicians over your speakers is your audio dream, then understanding something of the issues likely to fulfill that objective is what this forum has been helping with since 2006. Welcome!"


Jan. 2018
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  • #46
    I use a Cambridge Audio bluray player as a transport into a Naim Supernait dac, I'm very pleased with the results. (c7es2 & 50" panasonic 1080p plasma)

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    • #47
      I have a couple in the house, neither of which would be considered close to "state of the art"-but each one offers high value.

      Upstairs: Ah! Tjoeb, the Dutch modified (tube output stage) Marantz player
      Downstairs: NAD C 542, very high bang for the buck with built in HDCD decoder

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      • #48
        The first time I replied to this thread, I was using all Naim equipment (cd, integrated, power supply). I've gone back to using Jolida JD100 with a less expensive amp. Still sounds great.

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        • #49
          Wadia's latest 381. Using its built in digital volume control to great effect .
          Attached Files

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          • #50
            Originally posted by Paul G Smith View Post
            Arcam players seem to be most peoples starting point and I am still using my Alpha6 but as a transport, feeding the D/A in my Bryston preamp.
            I was thinking of getting a Blueray player which will play just about everything including CDs and SACDs. Does anyone else use a DVD / Blueray player for audio?
            I'm also considering a SONOS setup.
            I'm considering an OPPO 83 Universal disc player. Has anyone any thoughts...?
            Paul

            "If all else fails, read the instructions"

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            • #51
              Rega Saturn...sounds fabulous with my P3's!

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              • #52
                Exemplar Denon 3910 (redbook, SACD and DVD-A)

                HL-P3ES-2 30th Anniversary in Eucalyptus

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                • #53
                  hi, let's take a break and see what kind of digital sources that we use in our system in HUG:

                  Meridian 507
                  Naim CD5x + Flatcap2x
                  Sugden Masterclass CDP
                  Meridian 508.24
                  Opera Consonance CD120 Linear
                  Marantz CD17mkIII, Marantz CD6000KI and a Modded Lite Tube Dac 50
                  YBA CD1 the double external power supply version, EAR Acute
                  Bryston BCD-1. Wow.
                  Luxman DU 80, Audio Note AN-2
                  Streaming music with Linn Majik DS-I
                  A MacBook, Bel Canto 24/96 USB-Link, and mhdt Havana DAC
                  Macbook Pro - M2Tech Hiface - Naim DAC & Cambridge 650BD - Naim DAC
                  Quad CD- 2, Oppo 980
                  Quad 77
                  PS Audio Perfect Wave Transport with a Bel Canto DAC3 using the Virtual Battery Supply VBS1
                  McIntosh MCD-500 SACD/CD player
                  Luxman D-06
                  Sugden CDMaster
                  Meridian G08.2
                  Marantz CD16
                  EERA DL1
                  Naim CDS2
                  Marantz SA-11S2
                  PrimaLuna Prologue 8 tube CD player
                  Nad M5.
                  Copland CDA-277
                  meridan 500 Mk II Transport running into a Naim DAC
                  Rega Apollo
                  accuphase 800/801 cd-sacd player
                  Cambridge Azur 840C
                  CEC junkie 3300 and tl51xr
                  Arcam Alpha
                  Linn Ikemi
                  NAD 5440
                  NaimUniti (nait 5i)
                  Marantz SA15S1 CD/SACD
                  Arcam Alpha6
                  PrimaLuna Prologue 8
                  Cambridge Audio bluray player as a transport into a Naim Supernait dac
                  Tjoeb, the Dutch modified (tube output stage) Marantz player, NAD C 542
                  Jolida JD100
                  Wadia's 381.
                  OPPO 83 Universal disc player?
                  Rega Saturn
                  Exemplar Denon 3910 (redbook, SACD and DVD-A)

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                  • #54
                    "PS Audio Perfect Wave Transport with a Bel Canto DAC3 "
                    An update:
                    I've had the Bel Canto DAC3 modified to use the virtual battery supply (VBS1). This improved sound quality considerably: more natural tone quality from low to high, better sound stage particularly as regards depth and greater transparency. Altogether more musical.
                    David

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                    • #55
                      Another Arcam to the list - CD37. Replaced my Arcam Delta 70.2a few months back.
                      Ben from UK. Harbeth Super HL5 owner.

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                      • #56
                        Ps Audio PWD/ Bridge streaming Alac, Flac, AIFF , redbook and Hi Rez

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                        • #57
                          Quad 67 connected to Matrix (Synthesis) Dual mono Valve DAC. And even more time using heavily modified SqueezeBox.

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                          • #58
                            I am CDP-less! I have embraced NAS and wireless music streaming!

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                            • #59
                              Originally posted by denjo View Post
                              I am CDP-less! I have embraced NAS and wireless music streaming!
                              What precisely are you using, Denjo?

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                              • #60
                                Hi Labarum
                                Since my Quad 77 CDP packed up several years back, I decided to get a Squeezebox 3 (Classic), with RCA digital out to my Accuphase E560's internal DAC (DAC-20). The SB3 is powered by a shunt regulated Paul Hynes' PSU. The music files stored in my NAS are wirelessly streamed to the SB3. All controls and selection are via the SB3 remote. The SB3 also allows me listen to internet music which sounds quite decent when fed into my Accuphase internal DAC. I am reliably informed that my Accuphase DAC-20 houses a pair of Analog Devices 1955 DAC chip. The upgraded DAC-30 uses a pair of Burr-Brown DAC 1796 which allows up to 192 sampling. I hope this helps!

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