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  • Re: Stands for your Harbeths

    Greetings fellow Harbethians!

    A short while ago I bought a pair of the Monitor 40.1s in the US from Walter Swanbon, and then ordered a pair of stands from Noel Nolan (Skylan) in Canada. These are two great guys, so if you ever get the chance to say 'Hi!' to them be sure you do.

    Anyways, back to the 40.1s: What a really nice combination in my system - I love them. I noticed after my initial setup that the bass response of the 40.1s was slightly elevated in my listening room. Not bad at all, mind you, but noticeable. A little tip you might find helpful: I made that little bit of elavated bass vanish instantly with a little inexpensive tweak. A while back my Hi-Fi friend Stepaen had another friend of mine into wood working make up quite a few sets of wood disks about an inch in diameter and a half inch thick. We made them out of all kinds of different woods. We had been putting them under the feet of the electronic componets in our Hi-Fi rigs with rather nice results.

    On each of the Skylan stands I put three of the wood disks: one in the left & right front corners directly on the wood of the stand, and one in the very back in the middle. Instantly that little bit of bass elevation vanished and the nether regions became more articulate. It's a nice and inexpensive tweak to try if you're so inclined.

    Best,

    Jeff

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    • Re: Stands for your Harbeths

      Jeff
      are you decoupling with the wood pucks?
      have you moved up from SHL5's?
      Cheers
      andrew

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      • Re: Stands for your Harbeths

        Originally posted by tricka View Post
        Jeff
        are you decoupling with the wood pucks?
        have you moved up from SHL5's?
        Cheers
        andrew
        Hi Andrew,

        Yes you are correct. I place three of the wood pucks on the Skylan stands as mentioned, then I sit the speakers down on top of them. The result is that the speakers are supported by the three wood pucks. For some reason, this hard 'decoupling' approach cleans up the lower end a bit and makes it more articulate. I suspect any home supply store would have various 'hard' materials one could experiment with: ceramics, wood, glass, etc. The wood is really nice though, so I'd try that first if you were in an experimenting mood.

        I could never part with my SHL5s - they're a fantastic speaker. I have kept my SHL5s and use them in the 'Music Lovers' system with the Leben CS600 integrated amp I wrote about for 6Moons back when. Pure musical magic.

        I don't really look at it as moving up from the SHL5 to M40.1. I look at Harbeth speakers more like I look at choosing which lens I want for my Leica MP. They all provide approximately the same level of performance, and the best on for the job is the one that works best for the size of listening room one has. For my Leica MP, for close up work I'd choose the Macro-M, but for most things I'd choose the 35 mm Summicron ASPH - it's a great all around lens. For longer shots I'd choose the 90 mm Summicron ASPH. By analogy the smaller Harbeths are what I'd choose for smaller spaces, the Super HL5 is the great all-arounder, and the M40.1 works great in my largish listening/living room. Equivalent quality and performance, different applications based on what is needed (or wanted).

        My life probably will not be complete until I have a lense (Harbeth) for each application I have in mind. I see more Harbeths in my future!

        Best,

        Jeff

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        • Re: Stands for your Harbeths

          Originally posted by Jeff Day View Post
          Greetings fellow Harbethians!

          A short while ago I bought a pair of the Monitor 40.1s in the US from Walter Swanbon, and then ordered a pair of stands from Noel Nolan (Skylan) in Canada. These are two great guys, so if you ever get the chance to say 'Hi!' to them be sure you do.

          Anyways, back to the 40.1s: What a really nice combination in my system - I love them. I noticed after my initial setup that the bass response of the 40.1s was slightly elevated in my listening room. Not bad at all, mind you, but noticeable. A little tip you might find helpful: I made that little bit of elavated bass vanish instantly with a little inexpensive tweak. A while back my Hi-Fi friend Stepaen had another friend of mine into wood working make up quite a few sets of wood disks about an inch in diameter and a half inch thick. We made them out of all kinds of different woods. We had been putting them under the feet of the electronic componets in our Hi-Fi rigs with rather nice results.

          On each of the Skylan stands I put three of the wood disks: one in the left & right front corners directly on the wood of the stand, and one in the very back in the middle. Instantly that little bit of bass elevation vanished and the nether regions became more articulate. It's a nice and inexpensive tweak to try if you're so inclined.

          Best,

          Jeff
          Hi Jeff,

          Pls post some pictures of your set up with M40.1.
          I enjoy reading your review on the SHL5.
          BTW, will you be doing a review on the M40.1?

          Rgds

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          • Re: Stands for your Harbeths

            Originally posted by Jmohd View Post
            Hi Jeff,

            Pls post some pictures of your set up with M40.1.
            I enjoy reading your review on the SHL5.
            BTW, will you be doing a review on the M40.1?

            Rgds
            Thanks for the kind words - appreciated. I will write up the M40.1 at some point, but not until I am sure I am getting everything from them they are capable of (and boy are they capable!).

            The photo thing is a bit more tricky at the moment. I've sort of gotten fed up with digital cameras of late and put my Nikon on the shelf. I've gone back to shooting good old fashioned 35 mm film with a Leica MP body and a 35 mm Summicron-M lens. I just shot a bunch of Efke 25, 50, and 100 B&W film and am getting ready to send it to Cox B&W Lab to get it developed and some contact sheets made. After I review the contact sheets and pick out my favorite shots then I'll do the analogue to digiital conversion process and have some photos to post. But it may be a few weeks or so.

            Kind regards,

            Jeff

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            • Re: Stands for your Harbeths

              Hi Jeff
              thanks for the reply - you used a great analogy to explain your speaker choice. Or as we say here - "horses for courses".
              It's interesting but I like you have heard many different speakers and alot are or have been more "audiophile" but very few give me the musicality of the Harbeth's...abit like revisiting ESL57's driven by a tube amp.
              Aren't the Leben's great? A friend reported great things with his 99db Hornings and the CX300.
              I recently decoupled with Auralex Gramma's - work well but hideously ugly. I'll try the puck tweak.
              Cheers
              Andrew

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              • Re: Stands for your Harbeths

                I've made a start on some diy stands for my shl5s





                Thanks to T.W. for the idea.

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                • Re: Stands for your Harbeths

                  Hi Stephen PG,

                  How do you accurately mark-out and drill the holes?

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                  • Re: Stands for your Harbeths

                    I use this dowel set from Bosch.

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                    • Re: Stands for your Harbeths

                      Originally posted by Stephen PG View Post
                      I use this dowel set from Bosch.

                      A note: Drill into the end grain first - the drill will move! Mark each connection with tape and write a number on it. Then it doesn't matter if the holes are exactly on the right place, but the marked pair will fit.

                      I have recently build another lower pair for my M40s.

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                      • Re: Stands for your Harbeths

                        A note: Drill into the end grain first - the drill will move! Mark each connection with tape and write a number on it. Then it doesn't matter if the holes are exactly on the right place, but the marked pair will fit.

                        I have recently build another lower pair for my M40s.
                        T.W.

                        Absolutely right, there is also another reason for drilling the end grain first; it's quite hard to see the marks left by the alignment tool in the grain!

                        As for the drill moving, I bet you weren't using one of these drill bits?

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                        • Re: Skylan stands

                          There must be an answer to this in the forum somewhere, so forgive me for repeating the question. Can anyone tell me which Skylan stands to get for 1) the Compact 7 and 2) the HP3?

                          Thanks

                          David

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                          • Re: Stands for your Harbeths

                            Hi David,

                            The Compact -7. requires 20" (510) stands.

                            The P-3. requires 26" (660) stands.

                            Also,

                            HL-5. requires 18" (460) stands

                            M-40.1 requires around 14" (350) stands.

                            Height is with feet fitted.

                            Regards,
                            Noel.

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                            • Re: Stands for your Harbeths

                              Finished, well sort of, as finished as these thing ever are!



                              I'll properly match the stands to the speakers when my own pair arrives.

                              I'm using some rubber "bump-stops" between the speaker and stand, which are too "squidgy" so the speakers don't feel solidly mounted on the stands, earlier in the thread T.W. mentioned these:

                              These bumpers are from my local Hifi dealer - 5? each. A mix of rubber and graphite.


                              But countless fruitless searches later and I've come up blank, if you happen to read this T.W., an internet address for the place you bought them would be very useful.
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                              • Re: Stands for your Harbeths

                                Originally posted by Stephen PG View Post
                                But countless fruitless searches later and I've come up blank, if you happen to read this T.W., an internet address for the place you bought them would be very useful.
                                I bought it here:
                                http://www.uni-hifi-hannover.de
                                Go to "Kontakt" to see the contact information. I'm sure they speak english there.
                                If you have any trouble feel free to send me a private mail.

                                I use 8 bumpers per stand (top and bottom).
                                Note: This makes the stands about 4cm higher (2 x 2cm).

                                TW

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