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  • Hi Dennis.
    Many folks when sitting on a regular couch or sofa have their ear level at approx. 28" from the floor, so having the P3R on 27" stands should be very close, this includes the feet fitted.

    Noel.

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    • Hello,

      Has anyone ever seen and heard these? Love the funeral parlour charm. In a more colorful and modern context like my living room they might work very well, esthetically. They should be easy to clone. IfI can make them rigid and fairly light, they should be able to do the job for a pair of M30's.

      http://audio-heritage.jp/HARBETH/speaker/hl5.html

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      Tunes
      Last edited by tunes; 22-03-2010, 09:55 PM. Reason: no picture

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      • Originally posted by tunes View Post
        Hello,

        Has anyone ever seen and heard these? Love the funeral parlour charm. In a more colorful and modern context like my living room they might work very well, esthetically. They should be easy to clone. IfI can make them rigid and fairly light, they should be able to do the job for a pair of M30's.

        http://audio-heritage.jp/HARBETH/speaker/hl5.html

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        Tunes
        I'm sure these folk could clone them

        http://www.auctiva.com/stores/viewst...id=12&siteid=3

        They offer custom builds

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        • Originally posted by tunes View Post
          Hello,

          Has anyone ever seen and heard these? Love the funeral parlour charm. In a more colorful and modern context like my living room they might work very well, esthetically. They should be easy to clone. IfI can make them rigid and fairly light, they should be able to do the job for a pair of M30's.

          http://audio-heritage.jp/HARBETH/speaker/hl5.html
          I would honestly be afraid that the speaker would topple; but perhaps this is because I have an active dog. The dog, by the way, has so far failed to topple the Skylan stands I have.

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          • Custom Design stands

            I wanted to share a photo of the stands I have had Custom Design (http://customdesign.co.uk/catalog/pr...a608cc42933bb7) make custom for my Monitor 30's. They are in a custom white color, are exactly 24" high (to bring them exactly at ear level on the couch I am using), very rigid and very well damped. I love them!

            They also make a stand which looks perfect for a pair op HL-P3: http://customdesign.co.uk/catalog/pr...a608cc42933bb7
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            • Originally posted by garmtz View Post
              I wanted to share a photo of the stands I have had Custom Design (http://customdesign.co.uk/catalog/pr...a608cc42933bb7) make custom for my Monitor 30's. They are in a custom white color, are exactly 24" high (to bring them exactly at ear level on the couch I am using), very rigid and very well damped. I love them!

              They also make a stand which looks perfect for a pair op HL-P3: http://customdesign.co.uk/catalog/pr...a608cc42933bb7
              Nice looking stands there. The stands for my SHL-5 are similar in outlook except they are lower & black in colour. Love em too!

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              • Originally posted by Bodfish View Post
                Dagnamit, and I take delivery tomorrow of my new Something Solid XF stands on which I will be placing.......my P3ESRs!
                I know this is late, but I have had a negative experience with the Something Solid XF stands. The quality of finish was unacceptably bad (the worst I have ever seen on any audio related component). I returned them. The dealer handled things professionally, but I would not recommend Something Solid to anyone. But that's my 2 eurocents - hopefully you have better luck. Have you received your stands yet?

                I now have the Music Tools ToolOne stands for my P3ESR's and they are fantastic (not open frame but work well).

                Br,
                Teme

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                • OK, my two pennies worth - I've been selling Something Solid stands since the early 80's and, as you may imagine, have many very satisfied customers. In all these years I have never had any negative comments on the finish, just delight at the sound.

                  Somthing Solid are still the stands I have found to give the very best results with Harbeth speakers.

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                  • Originally posted by garmtz View Post
                    I wanted to share a photo of the stands I have had Custom Design (http://customdesign.co.uk/catalog/pr...a608cc42933bb7) make custom for my Monitor 30's. They are in a custom white color, are exactly 24" high (to bring them exactly at ear level on the couch I am using), very rigid and very well damped. I love them!

                    They also make a stand which looks perfect for a pair op HL-P3: http://customdesign.co.uk/catalog/pr...a608cc42933bb7
                    This stand is very similar to what I am using now. The stand is actually very simple do make in low cost. Hollow metal tube will do.
                    "Bath with Music"

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                    • Originally posted by hifi_dave View Post
                      In all these years I have never had any negative comments on the finish, just delight at the sound.
                      Perhaps I was just unlucky. Attached is a picture of the SS XF stands that I received. They were of slightly different heights, did not stand level and nothing in the stands even lined up (as can be seen from the picture to some extent) The construction really was poor (and cheap) IMVHO - just poorly welded steel and a bit of spray paint (that was already bubbling and chipping away) from a can as far as I could see.

                      Br,
                      Teme

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                      • Well, that's a strange one. Whilst I wouldn't pretend that they are finished as well as some of the large production stands where finish takes precedence over sound, the Something Solid stands are nicely presented. I have no idea what that is in your photo but the construction and finish is nowhere near as good as the ones I have seen, used and sold over many years. The layout of the rods, the quality of welding and finish is rather inferior. The SS stands are hard baked enamel and not spray paint. That pic looks suspiciously like a home made copy. What a shame.

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                        • Stands

                          I take Alan seriously when he says that you could play Harbeths on a pile of telephone directories if you like. I've tried a bunch of things from granite to sand-filled steel. At the moment I am most happy with Ikea Oddvar bathroom stools. Cost? $13. They're wood, open-frame and sturdy. Try them. If you don't like them you can put them in the bathroom and look for something more esoteric.

                          David

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                          • Also on the budget front, I'm using Rega Kyta stands (strategy: buy Kytes with stands on ebay, keep stands and re-sell speakers). These stands seem to work well with top plates removed... with top plates on there is a slight metallic "aftertaste" in the upper midrange which had me worried until it was traced back to the stands. I've not compared with other stands and while I'm sure there are better stands out there, right now there is nothing to complain about.

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                            • Originally posted by hifi_dave View Post
                              I have no idea what that is in your photo but the construction and finish is nowhere near as good as the ones I have seen, used and sold over many years. The layout of the rods, the quality of welding and finish is rather inferior. The SS stands are hard baked enamel and not spray paint. That pic looks suspiciously like a home made copy. What a shame.
                              I bought these from a UK retailer and they were sold to me as genuine SS stands. When I saw them I thought there were poor copies as well. If that is indeed the case, it would be nice if someone with genuine SS stands could post some pics of their stands, also closeups.

                              Br,
                              Teme

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                              • I'm waiting for the manufacturer to get back to me about these stands. I reckon they were a knocked together prototype because, as I say, every pair I have seen are far better made and finished. Also, as they are made in a jig, every pair has the same dimensions.

                                I'm afraid the technology to post pics is beyond me but I do know that several HUG members are using Something Solid.

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