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Stands for your Harbeths

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  • My "temporary" ikea stands for the c7s

    Hope the pictures work....

    This is definitely a "very safe" solution. It is close to impossible that my 3 yr old daughter will manage to drop the speakers.

    Solid base, black double sided stick.

    However, after having "educated" her I am looking for something that will extract more out of the Harbeths.

    Might opt for a pair of (out of stock) Standesign 20" closed top stands.

    Can anyone give me their opinion on the benefits for the bass region of a closed as opposed to open top stand?

    Its all about experimenting eh?

    Health and strength...
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    • dc, I think you do have a very nice solution from Ikea (which model?) here.
      I would be surprised if some other stands (600 euro's?) would sound very much BETTER.
      Of course they will sound different, but......better in the end????
      Furthermore it's all depending on the rest of your system ;-)


      • I've tried some foam (Auralex MoPAD - Monitor Isolation Pads that decouple the speakers) on an Ikea type stand:
        I got more tight and clear basses; palpable imaging and air around instruments; broader soundscape;
        high and mids became more intelligible.


        • Hi,
          I bought my stands by liedtke-metalldesign a german high end stands manufacterer.
          It sounds and looks very nice.
          on the linked page you see a lot of different stands with different speakes not only Harbeth but a lot.



          • CONGRATULATIONS!! These are very nice stands!! Excellent craftsmanship! :D

            Originally posted by durufle View Post
            I wasn't 100% happy with the commercial stands available for the SHL5 and figured having something unique was probably the way to go so I designed a pair of stands and had my friend (and master carpenter) Mitch Despaw build them for me. Took a few weeks (10 coats of oil finish!), but they arrived the other day and I'm extremely happy with the results. If anyone is interested in Mitch's contact info, PM me.

            More photos here:





            • Hello,

              I have used all types of different stands with my SHL5's and m30's including Skylan, Sound anchor, Foundation and even the boxes that the m30's came in served as stands, albeit for a very short time. All stands had their positives and negatives, but my favorite were Skylan as they seemed to give the most balanced sound overall. Recently I have decided to build my own open frame stands out of Oak. The costs were low, here's the breakdown Oak $70, Cherry stain $10, Foundation audio spike set(8) $75 (prices in canadian dollars on par with USD). The whole project took about 2 days to complete.
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              • Nice stand you made. what happen on the right side (horizontal white line) of right speaker?
                "Bath with Music"


                • Originally posted by keithwwk View Post
                  Nice stand you made. what happen on the right side (horizontal white line) of right speaker?
                  Thank you for the kind words. That must be the reflection of the camera flash. The speakers are brand new.


                  • Dear Paul Moraw,

                    Congratulations, they really look so nice... what about the sound? what's the difference between Skylan's?


                    • Thank you kindly.. The sound is really amazing very open and natural the best I've heard from my m30's so far. I think a lot has to do with fact that I built the stands so that the tweeter matches my ear height perfectly when sitting in my listening chair, I got my lovely wife to use a tape measure and a 2 foot level as I sat in my chair to measure the height. As it turned out the stands had to be exactly 26 inches high which is around 2 inches higher that most stands sold for the m30's, I think that made the single biggest difference in quality of sound. The Skylan stands I've used before were also very very good, I found the overall presentaion of the skylan and my Oak stands to be very balanced as opposed to the Foundation open frame stands which highlight the high frequencies but lose in bass definition, or the superheavy Sound anchor stands which are great on bass but thats about it. My only fuss about the Skylan stands was that once filled they can be quite heavy, I seem to always be tinkering with speaker placement and a nice light stand can go a long way to an easier setup. The Skylan Stands truly look and sound great though, and if you get them with the special isolation cubes they get even better. If I was to compare my stands to the Skylans I wouls say its a tossup, sound wise they are similar both open and detailed and most of all well balanced. Cost wise the oak stands are a lot cheaper if you are willing to put in the time. I think the skylans look a bit better but thats subjective. The Skylans might last longer as the materials used in Skylans are not prone to warping over time. The Oak stands are alot lighter on the other hand and allow for easier speaker positioning.


                      • I'm also using the Skylan stands under my M30's and the difference between them and the original (Canadian) Foundation stands was far from subtle. A far more balanced presentation overall with superior bass control and definition. I also have the newer isolation cubes that Skylan is providing, and the difference is subtle, yet again moves the performance ahead overall.


                        • Guizu BWS-7 Stands :D


                          • Wow, what a great looking wooden stand!! Do the three holes drilled out on the top cross brace serve a purpose?


                            • Stands made by quadraspire.

                              Found These speaker stands made by quadraspire. Astonishing looking stands ( IMHO) Wonder if anyone can comment if they are suitable for my P3 esr. Can"t find any more information on them.
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                              • Stands and bass?

                                I'm about to order a pair of open frame metal stands for my new pair of M30.1, but first I wan't to know if a stand like that affect the bass?

                                I don't want the bass to be less firm, rather the other way around. This thread is so big I really can't go through all the posts, sorry, I hope someone wants to help me out. Thanks!