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  • #31
    Re: Stands for your Harbeths

    Originally posted by Soundbyte
    I am actually using this stand for my C7ES2 - Atacama SL500 (500 mm or 20") filed with sand to stop the ring sound... I find the bass is good and clean, taut. I guess I like it that way!


    I have the same stand and is thinking of using sand too.

    However, I noticed that the cabinet of my C7ES3 is quite "lively" compared to most high performance speakers I've seen.

    Should I just fill the stand with light damping materials like compressed foam to stop the ringing - and not weigh the stand down - allowing the stand to sway a bit with the cabinet?

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    • #32
      Re: Stands for your Harbeths

      Originally posted by Naimeo
      I have the same stand and is thinking of using sand too.
      Hello Naimeo ,

      I suggest you to fill each half leg of your speaker stand with lead balls , just those used in Hunting Firearms .. and the other half with sand
      So you have more weight and stability and more anti resonance effect.
      I did the same as I described into my speaker stands you can see on the pic above

      My cent!

      Curio

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      • #33
        MapleShade Speaker stands

        Does anyone have any experience with using these stands:
        http://www.mapleshaderecords.com/aud...drockultra.php
        I'm intrigued by the design and noted that Harbeth get a mention by the company from user feedback.

        I actually like the idea of having the speakers close to the floor from a safety perspective (young children in the house). I have also been searching for a stand that matches the wonderful Harbeth maple cabinets.

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        • #34
          Re: Stands for your Harbeths

          Thanks Arlequen. I filled up about 80% with fine sand and the improvement in terms of overall clarity at moderate to high volume is quite dramatic. Bass impact & quantity improved too.

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          • #35
            Stands for C7ES

            Hi,
            I'm currently searching for some stands for my C7ES. I already searched the web, but i didn't find the right thing till now.
            I am searching for some metal stands. They should look simple (black as the speakers), no eye-catchers. They should not influence the sound.
            What do you use? What do you recommend? Are there solutions that are easily obtainable in Germany?

            Thanks, David

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            • #36
              Re: Stands for your Harbeths

              Originally posted by Soundbyte
              I am actually using this stand for my C7ES2 - Atacama SL500 (500 mm or 20") filed with sand to stop the ring sound... I find the bass is good and clean, taut. I guess I like it that way!

              Hi all,

              I am thinking of building custom stands for my SHL5's. It is feasible for me to create something that looks like the one in the picture, only for the fact that the top and bottom plates will be made of 3cm thick MDF and the posts will be metal. This is the way my hifi rack is constructed, and the same idea will apply for the speaker stand.

              Anybody think this is a good idea? It sonds nice to me, because it combines the damping characteristics of the MDF for the plates and the stability of the metal construction for the posts

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              • #37
                Re: Stands for your Harbeths

                I am using the Skylan 4 post stands for my C7s. After positioning them and filling them with sand, I have been really pleased. My floor is carpet over concrete and I used the included spikes and am amazed at how stable and secure they are. The speakers fit perfectly and the stands and speakers really seem as if they are one piece, thats how nicely they integrate. Moving the speakers from some makeshift stands onto the Skylans really improved the sound also, particularly in the bass region. Overall the Skylans are a really nice product.

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                • #38
                  Re: Stands for your Harbeths

                  Vaughn3d, what is the height of your Skylan stands? Do you know if there are any acoustic benefts for having 4 posts instead of 2? Lastly, about how high are your ears from the ground when you listen to music? I am thinking about getting Skylands for mine as well.

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                  • #39
                    Re: Stands for your Harbeths

                    I went with the 20" in stands which puts the tweeters right around ear level. However I played around and sat with my head height at +/- 4 inches and could not hear any difference.

                    I don't know if there are any differences between the 2 and 4 post stand, but I think the 4 post gives a much more stable look. Also you will have 2x the amount of sand to absorb vibration, so I suppose at some level the 4 post would sound better.

                    Give Noel at Skylan a call, he is great to chat with and can provide some excellent guidance, he knows the Harbeth line well.

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                    • #40
                      Re: Stands for your Harbeths

                      Has anyone tried open frame designs, such as those meant for Epos ES11 or ES14?

                      I thought that such designs are (should I say) boundary-less and would give the maximum space for any type of bookshelf speakers to "breathe"

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                      • #41
                        Re: Stands for your Harbeths

                        Hallo, i'm using ST12 open frame stands with Harbeth Monitor 30. They are rigid and due to their height adjustable spikes and the relative wide distance between the spikes (especially rearwards) they stand very firm also on a slightly uneven underground. I compared them with plain Mission stands two years ago (Speakers B&W CDM 1 and Harbeth HLHL-P3ES-2) and they offered a significant improvement. For the M30's they're maybe a little bit too low (i'm considering to put them on a flagstone or something else) but this is perhaps no problem with the compact 7.
                        Regards, Thomas

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                        • #42
                          Re: Stands for your Harbeths

                          I ran my Super HL5's on the Epos stands for quite a while. I then put them on a pair of 24" Skylans that were purchased for a smaller speaker I also have. Although Noel thinks 24" is far too high for the SHL5's, I think they sound wonderful. Can't tell you if its's the height or the Skylans, but I doubt I'll go back to the Epos.

                          While Harbeths have lossy cabinets, it does not follow that they should be paired with lossy stands necessarily.

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                          • #43
                            Re: Stand height and stand construction

                            Originally posted by danrubin
                            ... I then put them on a pair of 24" Skylans ... While Harbeths have lossy cabinets, it does not follow that they should be paired with lossy stands necessarily.
                            I agree on both counts. I think that, as a general rule of thumb, most if not all speakers will sound better the taller the stand.

                            The problem is practicality (stability, cosmetics, children) versus acoustics, and faced with that situation, most listeners obviously opt for shorter stands.

                            Yes I completely agree about 'lossy speakers, ?? lossy stands'. I have read some fine arguements for/against but I can't myself see the necessary correlation. What matters is not the quasi-theory devoid of any scientific analysis but what suits you, in your room on your budget with your domestic considerations.
                            Alan A. Shaw
                            Designer, owner
                            Harbeth Audio UK

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                            • #44
                              Re: Stands for your Harbeths

                              One other point. With the SHL5, you might want to align the main tweeter (not the supertweeter) at ear height. (Or do I have that wrong?) Anyway, the main tweeter on the 5 is, I believe, just about the same distance from the bottom of the cabinet as the tweeter is on Compact 7. If tweeter height were your only criterion, you would use stands of the same height for both the 5 and the 7.

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                              • #45
                                Re: Stand height and stand construction

                                Originally posted by A.S.
                                I agree on both counts. I think that, as a general rule of thumb, most if not all speakers will sound better the taller the stand.

                                The problem is practicality (stability, cosmetics, children) versus acoustics, and faced with that situation, most listeners obviously opt for shorter stands.

                                Yes I completely agree about 'lossy speakers, ?? lossy stands'. I have read some fine arguements for/against but I can't myself see the necessary correlation. What matters is not the quasi-theory devoid of any scientific analysis but what suits you, in your room on your budget with your domestic considerations.

                                Funny you should mention tall stands, Alan. I've been listening to my HP3s on 58cm stands up to now. Only yesterday I raised the 'speakers by putting them on some cans of baked beans. If I thought they sounded wonderful before they are now stupendous! My wife hates the baked beans (well, to be honest, they're not very preposessing aesthetically), so I'm going to have to think carefully about getting new stands. More money.... How high would too high be?

                                David

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