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  • #76
    Re: Stands for your Harbeths

    Originally posted by A.S.
    Useful comments David but please - to make it clear - the Compact 7 you refer to was the original model of 1995 or thereabouts when we last met. Since then the C7ES, ES2 and last year the ES3 which are all subtly different and (in the case of the ES3) re-tuned in the bass. Certainly the ES3 has not drawn any comments that I am aware of about stand-bass-room-interface.
    I stand corrected and updated! Many thanks. I last heard Compact 7's in 2000, not sure of the model vintage..

    I should add that my ancient but lovely HL5's in the same Northamptonshire dem-room behaved rather differently, but these again have been developed much further in recent years to their benefit.

    I promise to bear my time lag very carefully in consideration of future posts (smile).

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    • #77
      Re: Stands for your Harbeths

      Hi all,

      When seated, the height from the floor to my ear is about 36 inches.

      1) What is the ideal speaker stand height for S HL5?

      2) When seated the super tweeter or the main tweeter should be leveled with the ears?

      Thanks

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      • #78
        Re: Stands for your Harbeths

        Originally posted by Jmohd
        Hi all,

        When seated, the height from the floor to my ear is about 36 inches.

        1) What is the ideal speaker stand height for S HL5?

        2) When seated the super tweeter or the main tweeter should be leveled with the ears?

        Thanks
        The ideal height is achieved when the main tweeter is at ear level when seated. Keep them away from all walls, especially side walls. Place them as far apart as you can. Personally, i also prefer to toe them in so that when you are seated, you only see a bit of the inner sides from either spks. This arrangement ensures superb stereo spread & imaging.

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        • #79
          Toe-in and stands for your Harbeths

          Just to clarify that there are no hard and fast rules about toe-in. What toe-in does is alters the mid frequencies/high frequencies ratio slightly, so that the extreme top is slightly lifted. But this is only a very small amount and some folk may or may not prefer it: it entirely depends upon your room (especially the side walls), your taste, your hearing!, your equipment and the recordings themselves.

          In other words, what may be ideal for you many not suit me and vice versa. So don't be too concerned to clone other successful set-ups in your room. You must try for yourself. That said, it is always very helpful to discover what works well for other users - or especially what doesn't work so well.

          As for distance apart between the speakers laterally, some folk like them wide apart, some closer together. Again, so much depends upon taste. "Do what ever sounds best to you, in your room, with your equipment and music." And most of all, do it within your budget. Do not become afraid of your stands!

          "Enjoy the music!
          Alan A. Shaw
          Designer, owner
          Harbeth Audio UK

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          • #80
            Stands for SHL-5s? Mission accomplished

            This is the SKYLAN 18" 4-post stand, especially made for the Harbeth SHL-5. Simply great stands, I am very happy with my choice and a big improvement over the metal ones i've had on loan for the past year. Plus Nolan is a great guy to do business with.

            Cheers,

            Nikolas

            Last edited by NikPer; 22-02-2008, 10:11 PM. Reason: text editing

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            • #81
              Re: Stands for SHL-5s? Mission accomplished

              Originally posted by NikPer View Post
              This is the 18" 4-post stand, especially made for the Harbeth SHL-5. Simply great stands, I am very happy with my choice and a big improvement over the metal ones i've had on loan for the past year. Plus Nolan is a great guy to do business with.

              Cheers,

              Nikolas

              Beautiful speaker stand and nice set-up!

              I had emailed to Mr Nolan a couple of times, till now he had not replied. I hope to get the stand for my new SHL5 which is due to come this Mar/April.
              I know he may be busy but hope he could reply to my emails....still waiting .

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              • #82
                Re: Stands for SHL-5s? Mission accomplished

                Sent Noel an email as well but he sounds like a very, very busy man! I have not received a reply to my email sent last week. I contacted my local carpenter and he can custom make the stand based on the Skylan design but in solid wood instead!! And, black diamond racing cones below each of the four pillars! With solid wood, you don't need to worry about filling the pillars with sand. And, the wood can be veneered in cherry wood! )

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                • #83
                  Re: Stands for SHL-5s? Mission accomplished

                  Originally posted by denjo View Post
                  Sent Noel an email as well but he sounds like a very, very busy man! I have not received a reply to my email sent last week. I contacted my local carpenter and he can custom make the stand based on the Skylan design but in solid wood instead!! And, black diamond racing cones below each of the four pillars! With solid wood, you don't need to worry about filling the pillars with sand. And, the wood can be veneered in cherry wood! )
                  Hi Denjo,

                  I would like a pair made too. Pls give further info, can email me.


                  Rgds

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                  • #84
                    Re: Stands for SHL-5s? Mission accomplished

                    I filled the pilars with kitty-litter today, it took about 2 kilos for each pillar so 16 kg in total.

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                    • #85
                      Skylan stands: light and extremely strong

                      Here is a picture I took at THE/CES 2008. Skylan's Noel is standing on one of his stands holding a Monitor 40!
                      Attached Files
                      Alan A. Shaw
                      Designer, owner
                      Harbeth Audio UK

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                      • #86
                        Re: Stand height and stand construction

                        Originally posted by NIKOS MAMASSOULAS View Post
                        Six months ago I bought Compact 7ES-3. The set up was Musical Fidelity A3.5 amp(125 w/ch), Musical Fidelity A.5 cdp with Atacama stands 16 inches filled with sand. My room is about 40sqrm. The sound was fantastic and harbeth performed better than any other speaker ever tried in my room (some of them costed more than twice harbeth's price). Recently I have upgrated to Musical Fidelity A1008 amp (250W, external power supply, tube pre amp stage) and the sound in terms of clarity, smoothness, detail and soundstage was dramaticaly improved.
                        But the more bodier sound of the new amplifier caused me a problem. The extra bass seems not to be tight and lucks control. Having adequate distance from side and rear walls I suspect that the main source of problem is the small hight of stands (16 inches).
                        Do you think a taller and better quality stand (eg. SKYLAN 20 inch) will solve the above mentioned problem?
                        I will appreciate everyone's feedback and espesially yours Alan.

                        Best regards from Greece.
                        A late reply to an old post, but reading it again I picked up on something...

                        You had a great sound with the original system, but "upgrading" the amp caused the bass region to be worse, so all of a sudden the stands are at fault? A tube pre amp stage may well have been used to add some "warmth colouration"

                        You may well have sorted this out by now, but this is where a sympathetic dealer and a home demo of equipment can be a real help, as a different amp may have improved clarity without messing up the bass region...

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                        • #87
                          Re: Stands for your Harbeths

                          Have anyone tried these stand? Attached pictures of stand for super HL5.

                          Size: W314?D324?H450

                          I'm thinking of getting the second stand. Comments greatly appreciated

                          1) 2)

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                          • #88
                            Re: Stands for your Harbeths

                            they look like a torture device. sorry, had to say it. but then again, Im a Skylan fan...

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                            • #89
                              Re: Stands for your Harbeths

                              Can't get Skylan stand in Singapore. It cost about USD$600 to ship. : (

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                              • #90
                                Re: Stands for your Harbeths

                                Originally posted by Jmohd View Post
                                Can't get Skylan stand in Singapore. It cost about USD$600 to ship. : (
                                Why don't you build your own. You may have seen my earlier post from last year ...
                                http://www.harbeth.co.uk/usergroup/s...=1814#post1814
                                They work perfect with my M40s. It's fun to build them. You can adjust the stand height
                                to perfectly fit your needs (Tweeter in ear height when you sit in your sofa). You can also paint
                                them. That gives you some more hours of relaxation.

                                And if you like the idea of torture they are probably even better than the other ones. Think of that you sit on the stands and unfortunallely sink down .... :-)

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