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At its inception ten years ago, the Harbeth User Group's ambition was to create a lasting knowledge archive. Knowledge is based on facts and observations. Knowledge is timeless, independent of the observer and can be replicated. However, we live in new world in which objective facts have become flexible, personal and debatable. HUG operates in that real world, and that has now been reflected in the structure of HUG.

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24Bit/192kHz Remastering

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  • 24Bit/192kHz Remastering

    I am finding it difficult to distinguish different singers in the Best Audiophile Voice VI a 24Bit/192kHz remastering. Some of the singers such as Rebecca pidgeon, Eva Cassidy and two others' voice can be contrasted with one another but somehow the others all sound the same.

    In another 24Bit/192kHz remastering Ben E King sounds so smooth that's the unique signature of of his voice was missing. Even the 1980s Rolling Stone Cd sounded correct but not necessary better than the SACD version.

    Anyone else feeling the same?

    BTW, why is that I am always getting "Server too busy message" very often.


  • #2

    Not sure if you have come across this but is a comparison of formats by BAS…

    There is addidional information on the procedure and techniques here…

    Your conclusion seem to be consistent with the findings. :-)


    • #3
      Originally posted by kittykat View Post
      ...Your conclusion seem to be consistent with the findings. :-)
      My scenario is a bit different. I find remastering in 24Bit/196kHz alters the sound. Is sounds fabulous till you compare with the original CDs. The original CDs are somehow raw and seems to be correct. I am thinking it may got to do with the songs originally heard through 16Bit/44.1kHz and our brain interprets them as correct. I also observed similar finding where vinyl lovers somehow prefers some new releases in CD over vinyl but not the original oldies where it was first released in vinyl.



      • #4
        ABX testing ... Boston Audio society

        Im not wanting to start a new debate and hope the matter rests here, but this is a classic article (and a very interesting read) which sums up lot of the insecurities, misguided “theories” and faulty assumptions we have of our little hobby.

        It is an ABX comparison with the insertion of an A/D D/A converter in the electronics chain, and Linn enthusiasts should find it all the more interesting!