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"This Harbeth User Group (HUG) is the Manufacturer's own managed forum dedicated to natural sound, realisable by controlling the confounding variables between tthe microphone and the listeners' ears.

For example, the design of and interaction between the hifi amplifier and its speaker load can and potentially will alter the sound balance of what you hear. To reproduce the sounds captured by the recording microphones, as Harbeth speakers are designed to do, you would naturally select system components (sources, electronics, cables and so on) that do not color the sound before it reaches the speakers.

Identifying components for their system neutrality should, logically, start with the interpretation and analysis of their technical, objective performance, as any and every deviation from a measurably flat frequency response at any point along the serial chain from microphone to ear is very likely to cause the total system to have an audible sonic personality. That includes the contribution of the listening room itself.

HUG specialises in making complex technical matters simple to understand, aiding the identification of audio components likely to maintain a faithful relationship between the recorded sound and the sound you hear. With our heritage of natural sound, HUG cannot be really be expected to guide in the selection, approval, endorsement or even discussion of equipment that is intend to introduce a significantly personalised sound to the audio signal chain. For that you should do your own research and above all, make the effort to visit an Authorised Dealer and listen to your music at your loudness on your loudspeakers through the various electronics offered there. There is no on-line substitute for that time investment in a dealer's showroom.

If you desire to intentionally tune your system sound to your personal taste, please consider carefully how much you should rely upon the subjective opinions of strangers. Their hearing acuity and taste will be different to yours, as will be their motives and budget, their listening distance, listening loudness and listening room treatment, not necessarily leading to appropriate equipment selection and listening satisfaction for you.

Alternatively, if faithfully reproducing the sound intended by the composer, score, conductor and musicians over your speakers is your audio dream, then understanding something of the issues likely to fulfill that objective is what this forum has been helping with since 2006. Welcome!"

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24Bit/192kHz Remastering

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  • 24Bit/192kHz Remastering

    I am finding it difficult to distinguish different singers in the Best Audiophile Voice VI a 24Bit/192kHz remastering. Some of the singers such as Rebecca pidgeon, Eva Cassidy and two others' voice can be contrasted with one another but somehow the others all sound the same.

    In another 24Bit/192kHz remastering Ben E King sounds so smooth that's the unique signature of of his voice was missing. Even the 1980s Rolling Stone Cd sounded correct but not necessary better than the SACD version.

    Anyone else feeling the same?

    BTW, why is that I am always getting "Server too busy message" very often.


  • #2

    Not sure if you have come across this but is a comparison of formats by BAS…

    There is addidional information on the procedure and techniques here…

    Your conclusion seem to be consistent with the findings. :-)


    • #3
      Originally posted by kittykat View Post
      ...Your conclusion seem to be consistent with the findings. :-)
      My scenario is a bit different. I find remastering in 24Bit/196kHz alters the sound. Is sounds fabulous till you compare with the original CDs. The original CDs are somehow raw and seems to be correct. I am thinking it may got to do with the songs originally heard through 16Bit/44.1kHz and our brain interprets them as correct. I also observed similar finding where vinyl lovers somehow prefers some new releases in CD over vinyl but not the original oldies where it was first released in vinyl.



      • #4
        ABX testing ... Boston Audio society

        Im not wanting to start a new debate and hope the matter rests here, but this is a classic article (and a very interesting read) which sums up lot of the insecurities, misguided “theories” and faulty assumptions we have of our little hobby.

        It is an ABX comparison with the insertion of an A/D D/A converter in the electronics chain, and Linn enthusiasts should find it all the more interesting!