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Stand recommendations for the P3ESR

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  • Stand recommendations for the P3ESR

    Hiya please could some kind soul recommend some speaker stands for the P3ESR I'll be buying them soon and need to get some stands to go with them. Kind regards, Wendy.

  • #2
    Sonically, there is only one thing that matters, but it is important: they should bring the tweeter to ear height, and as accurately as possible. Beyond that, the only concerns are stability, esthetics and budget.


    • #3
      Hello Wendy. Why don't you try Hi-Fi Racks speaker stands? They are not expensive, look rather nice and are readily available in the U.K. Alternatively you can try Canadian Skylans but they will be more expensive than your local Hi-Fi Racks stands.

      My own P3ESRs are placed on the old Atacama stands bought second hand and I'm happy too. I was thinking to get Skylans instead but the stands I have are ok :)


      • #4
        Originally posted by Milosz View Post
        Hello Wendy. Why don't you try Hi-Fi Racks speaker stands? They are not expensive, look rather nice and are readily available in the U.K. Alternatively you can try Canadian Skylans but they will be more expensive than your local Hi-Fi Racks stands.
        Hi Wendyki, I would also recommend that you look at the Hi-Fi Racks stands made for Harbeth speakers. As, like me, you are based in the UK an alternative (the ones I currently use on my P3ESR's) are the Something Solid stands but their 'beauty' may not be so appealing. Both brands make the stands to the exact height required to bring the tweeter to ear level. Enjoy the P3's - they are a truly stunning music making instrument.


        • #5
          I use B&W STAV24 stands for my P3ESRs. Turn the upper plate 90 degrees and the width is precisely that of the P3ESRs. The stands are reasonably priced, look nice and are well made.
          So far I've not been kicked out of HUG because of the logo.
          In my case they are standing on 5cm thick painted concrete slabs which gives them the correct high, but of course this is depending on personal length and the chairs one uses.
          You get some choices; spikes between upper plate and speakers (use cups to protect the Harbeths fineer) , spikes or rubber feet underneat. Spikes seem to give a little bit more accent in the higher frequencies in my set up. I prefer very little bluetack (smaller then a pea) between speaker and stand and the rubber feet on the corners.
          Listen to the P3ESRs with ears, not eyes


          • #6
            I use a pair of Linn Kan stands, which are exactly the right height.
            Wooden stands are nice, but expensive.


            • #7
              My P3ESRs are on Skylan stands and I've been pleased with them. As others have mentioned, the stands from Hi-Fi Racks look really nice. I've been tempted to try a pair, but shipping to the U.S. may be a bit expensive.


              • #8
                Skylan 27" for P3ESRs. Ultra stable (I filled the columns with white rice) and a perfect fit for the P3s. I think they look good, too - understated, unobtrusive, but highly effective.


                • #9
                  Just got a pair of IKEA BEKVÄM stepladders. Strong, stable and flexibility. :)

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                  • #10
                    Atacama HMS1-TS 600 -

                    "The HMS1-TS 600 speaker stand has been specifically designed to support speakers that are wider than they are deep; for example the ProAc Tablette 10, most BBC LS3/5a specified monitors, Harbeth P3ESR and other similar loudspeakers."