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Harbeth 30.1 placement advice - a beginner needs help

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  • Harbeth 30.1 placement advice - a beginner needs help

    New home, new living room, new speakers (30.1s), new amplifier (Peachtree Nova 220 SE). And I am a newbie to audiophile gear and room acoustics.

    The speakers will sit on pair of Ikea Lack stools for now.

    Living room has with a window at the back, and an opening at the side in the front. I have attached a crude diagram of the room, and photos of the back and the front of the room.

    Any advice on placement?

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    It's kind of hard to say without seeing the room with furnishings. Generally speaking, keeping the speakers 2 to 3 feet from walls to the side and rear limits reflected sound, which you do want to minimize. Of course, rugs and stuffed chairs, couches, etc. help absorb the reflected sound, which is good. Closing the blinds while listening would probably be good. Sitting so that your ears are at the same height as the tweeters of the 30.1s is recommended. So basically, the 'softer' - more absorbent and less reflective - the room the better. But assuming that you may be sharing this room with others, compromise will be the order of the day. Good luck and enjoy the music!

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    • #3
      I guess the primary concern is where you want to sit. You can locate the speakers along three of the four walls I would think. As was already said, keep the speakers some distance away from walls, and make sure reflections are damped rather more than in the current barren state of the room. If, like me, you like a modern minimalist interior, this is not easy.
      Will you also connect your tv? I am always surprised that so few people do, but it improves the tv sound enormously without the hassle of multichannel HT gear and at the cost of no more than an extra cable. And I for one do not want to listen to opera or ballet anymore without the video. A BD (or now UHD BD) player is an excellent cd player as well. But if you do this, you obviously have an additional constraint on where you can locate the speakers, and on where you sit.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Ned Mast View Post
        It's kind of hard to say without seeing the room with furnishings. Generally speaking, keeping the speakers 2 to 3 feet from walls to the side and rear limits reflected sound, which you do want to minimize. Of course, rugs and stuffed chairs, couches, etc. help absorb the reflected sound, which is good. Closing the blinds while listening would probably be good. Sitting so that your ears are at the same height as the tweeters of the 30.1s is recommended. So basically, the 'softer' - more absorbent and less reflective - the room the better. But assuming that you may be sharing this room with others, compromise will be the order of the day. Good luck and enjoy the music!
        I began experimenting with speakers in various positions along length and on the back window side and already see some improvement! But, yes, furtniture is needed, and all of it is on a ship, heading from India to Oakland harbour. Wonít be here for a month! And a fine Persian rug should add some pizazz to the floor.

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        • #5
          You will need a rug most definitely and also some absorbent on the walls in the form of interlined curtains or similar. Without these, the room will be very live and echoey.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by willem View Post
            I guess the primary concern is where you want to sit. You can locate the speakers along three of the four walls I would think. As was already said, keep the speakers some distance away from walls, and make sure reflections are damped rather more than in the current barren state of the room. If, like me, you like a modern minimalist interior, this is not easy.
            Will you also connect your tv? I am always surprised that so few people do, but it improves the tv sound enormously without the hassle of multichannel HT gear and at the cost of no more than an extra cable. And I for one do not want to listen to opera or ballet anymore without the video. A BD (or now UHD BD) player is an excellent cd player as well. But if you do this, you obviously have an additional constraint on where you can locate the speakers, and on where you sit.
            Yes, a TV, a Mac Mini, a Denon SACD-DVD player for CDs and movies, and an Apple TV will grace a BDI cabinet. I have gotten to used to looking at my library on the big TV screen to move to a iPad based selection. But the room does have to also be a living room with a couple of other sofas, and some bookshelves, end tables, and paintings. So a fair bit of space management to do. Canít afford a pure music room setup. My Eames chair replica will still be prime seat for the music! I watch a lot of concert videos from a site called Qello, that has a good selection.

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              The room now!

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              • #8
                Nice use of cartons.

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                  Stands came, and made a difference straight away. Now for some furniture...

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                  • #10
                    Nice room -- I just went through this with a pair of SHL5+. Here is a decent starting point for your room: listening position is 2/3 off the front wall, and speakers are 1/5 off the wall. From here I would toe in to taste.
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                    • #11
                      I just used the cardas system to place everything and lucky enough to have a second lounge 6.45m x 4.65 x 3.5 and the sound now is beyond fabulous - here is link to calculator
                      http://noaudiophile.com/speakercalc/
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                        Originally posted by Cacophonix View Post
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                        Stands came, and made a difference straight away. Now for some furniture...
                        What stands are they?

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                        • #13
                          They don't look like 'stands', more like tables as they are not the same dimensions as the speakers.

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                          • #14
                            The cardas does give the best sound I have ever had - reduced nearly all room boom at hogher volumes - I have 3 acoustic GIK panels on rear wall and probably need some corner panels.

                            i have marble fireplace and wood burner on RHS and placed bookshelf opposite this on LHS. I dont really get harshness that I can deiscern from fireplace but prop wonít notice that until it is gone ... cardas method of placement does mean that speakers really dominate room - luckily I have a second lounge for family and chat (and tv)
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