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For example, the design of and interaction between the hifi amplifier and its speaker load can and potentially will alter the sound balance of what you hear. To reproduce the sounds captured by the recording microphones, as Harbeth speakers are designed to do, you would naturally select system components (sources, electronics, cables and so on) that do not color the sound before it reaches the speakers.

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Lyngdorf TDAI 2170 Integrated plus SDA-2400 Power Amp

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  • Lyngdorf TDAI 2170 Integrated plus SDA-2400 Power Amp

    This combination works very well with my SHL5 plus for about a year now.

    First of all, I felt the TDAI 2170 did not have enough power to really drive my speakers - although it should have per technical specs - I quickly upgraded with Lyngdorfs Power Amp that delivers a good 300 Watt per channel at 6Ohm.

    I really like near field listening setups. The SHL5s got 1,5m to the back wall and about 1,0 m to the side walls (both measured from the top center of the cabinet. The listening triangle is defined by 2,5m tweeter to tweeter distance and the listening position around 2,9m at the top of the triangle. Lyngdorfs room perfect correction software does the rest for me, although in fact the overall correction applied is only 9%, so the difference between "bypass" and "focus = using the correction" is subtle but still very relevant for the bass precision.

    A word on previous gear and listening preferences: Lyngdorf has clearly outperformed my previousTeddy Pardo i80A Integrated Amp which had topped my Naim Supernait 2 before. Both the previous amps make a nearly perfect match with SHL5s, but the Lyngdorf chain adds precision and clarity which I personally have not heard before. I enjoy Classic as well as Pop music and also Rock / Hardrock. I always found it hard to set up a systems that makes more than a good compromise for my widespread musical taste and I have found it now.

  • #2
    Sounds very nice with the lyndorf amp combo i imagine....


    • #3
      Sounds good. I gues what you are hearing is the combination of the room eq and the bigger power that is on tap.


      • #4
        Nice setup! The 5+ are my favorite Harbeths, though I could live with all of them. Due to a difficult room I choose the P3esr, my amp is a NAD C390DD, same all digital architecture as Lyngdorf. I love the combination. The NAD has more then enough power to drive P3s, the clarity but with a very friendly treble lets me enjoy music for literally hours.
        Listen to the P3ESRs with ears, not eyes


        • #5
          I am pairing TDAI-2170 with C7ES3 and I am also really happy with he setup. After basic acoustic adaptation of my listening area correction is also very subtle, something around 5% if I remember correctly. This is very universal setup. Clarity and precision of Lyngdorf combined with Harbeth's warm touch give great, neutral but also non-fatiguing experience. I found it to have very neutral balance, and nice recording differentiation. I was also powering my Harbs with some nice SE tube amplifiers and although there were some magic in voices like Leonard Cohen or good old blues that setup was not so universal. Now I can play everything and everything will sound very good at least.


          • #6
            Your listening triangle is similar to my setup.. And your music tastes are similar too. My SHL5Plus is powered by a Luxman 507u amplifier (110w @ 8ohms)in our lounge/sitting room. An area where I really couldnít put in any room correction material.. I enjoy the sound I am getting, the only options Iíve ever wanted to try is
            room correction software included in an amplifier and perhaps more power.. thanks for the information regarding your setup...


            • #7
              Hi all!
              For you who are in the market for a new amp, I must recommend the brand new I255 from
              got mine 2 weeks ago. It really does a good job driving my shl5s. I play mostly vinyl and it sounds absolutely great.
              great value for money!!!!!