Announcement

Collapse

INTRODUCTION - PLEASE READ FIRST TO UNDERSTAND THIS FORUM!

"This Harbeth User Group (HUG) is the Manufacturer's own managed forum dedicated to natural sound from microphone to ear, achievable by recognising and controlling the numerous confounding variables that exist along the audio chain. The Harbeth designer's objective is to make loudspeakers that contribute little of themselves to the music passing through them.

Identifying system components for their sonic neutrality should logically proceed from the interpretation and analysis of their technical, objective performance, since deviations from a flat frequency response at any point along the signal chain from microphone to ear is likely to create an audible sonic personality in what you hear. That includes the contribution of the listening room itself. To accurately reproduce the recorded sound, as Harbeth speakers are designed to do, you would be advised to select system components (sources, electronics, cables and so on) that do not color the sound before it reaches the speakers.

For example, the design of and interaction between the hifi amplifier and its speaker load can and potentially will alter the sound balance of what you hear. This may or may not be what you wish to achieve, but on the face of it, any deviation from a flat response - and the frequency balance of tube amplifiers are usually influenced by their speaker load - is a step away from a truly neutral system. HUG has extensively discussed amplifiers and the methods for seeking the most objectively neutral amongst a plethora of available product choices.

HUG specialises in making complex technical matters simple to understand, aiding the identification of audio components likely to maintain a faithful relationship between the recorded sound and the sound you hear. With our heritage of natural sound and pragmatism, HUG cannot be expected to be a place to discuss the selection, approval or endorsement of non-Harbeth system elements selected, knowingly or not, to create a significantly personalised sound. For that you should do your own research and above all, make the effort to visit an Authorised Dealer and listen to your music at your loudness on your loudspeakers through the various offerings there. There is really no on-line substitute for time invested in a dealer's showroom because 'tuning' your system to taste is such a highly personal matter.

Please consider carefully how much you should rely upon and be influenced by the subjective opinions of strangers. Their hearing acuity and taste will be different to yours, as will be their motives and budget, their listening distance, loudness and room treatment, not necessarily leading to appropriate equipment selection and listening satisfaction for you.

If faithfully reproducing the sound intended by the composer, score, conductor and musicians in your home and over Harbeth speakers is your audio dream, then understanding something of the issues likely to fulfill that intention is what this forum has been helping to do since 2006. Welcome!"


Feb. 2018
See more
See less

In-store event at Hi-Fi Corner, Edinburgh - 29th June 2017

Collapse
X
  • Filter
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts

  • In-store event at Hi-Fi Corner, Edinburgh - 29th June 2017

    Good afternoon HUG

    I'm delighted to share that we will be holding an in-store event at our Scottish dealer, Hi-Fi Corner, on Thursday 29th June, at their Edinburgh store.

    Alan will be demonstrating the SHL5plus anniversary model with a playlist of carefully selected tracks, each with sonic characteristics to showcase what Harbeth speakers are capable of. There will also be a talk on the brand's history and what goes in to making our speakers.

    To finish, there will be a Q&A session with Alan and every guest will receive a signed certificate of attendance.

    Admission is free with drinks and nibbles also provided. There are limited spaces available so please register if you would like to attend.
    Eventbrite - Hi-Fi Corner Edinburgh presents Meet Harbeth Audio - Thursday, 29 June 2017 at Hi-Fi Corner. Find event and ticket information.
    Emma Smith
    Brand Manager
    Harbeth Audio UK

  • #2
    I've spent the morning preparing material for tomorrow evening. Obviously, music is highly personal and anything I select will be within my own sphere of reference (or pleasure) and it's almost all 'acoustic' because acoustic music, unlike pop music, is not synthetic - we can really only judge the recording (and hence replay fidelity) with material that sounds as it would do were we at the recording.

    I have assembled a couple of a tracks demonstrating what it sounds like when you play high dynamic music that needs oodles of amplifier power to accelerate the speaker cones over an underpowered or clipped amplifier. My observation is that the low-dynamic rendition has the illusion of being "fatter" and "warmer". But of course, that is merely a subjective sensation. It's easy to look at the recorded waveform and see just how dynamically crushed it is.

    The depressing thing is that to the ordinary ear, the high dynamic original content is practically indistinguishable from the dynamically crushed version. As we know by the selection (and adoration) of tiny audio amplifiers, not only can folk not recognise and reject narrow dynamic range when they hear it, they may actually prefer it. Lucky for the music industry then.
    Alan A. Shaw
    Designer, owner
    Harbeth Audio UK

    Comment


    • #3
      I've loaned CD's from the local library which have been pretty much unbearable to listen to, a wall of compressed sound, the only way to manage the recording is to play at lower volumes. A good dynamic recording compels me to turn up the volume, not reduce it.
      Getting to know my C7ES3

      Comment


      • #4
        Well, I'm in complete agreement with you. We'll be spending quite a bit of time discussing dynamic range tomorrow evening, and of course, I have audio examples from Megadeath upwards which have taken the day to prepare. It'll be easier on the ears to demonstrate the reverse situation - taking a wide dynamic range signal and crushing it down into a low dynamic one. But first, we have to do a little bit of explanation about what the nice pictures actually mean. I think that it's extremely important to do some foundation building to carry the entire audience along. Apologies if it's too basic, but it's really important to leave with food for thought.

        Source: as per both of our rooms at Bristorl - one of my Astell & Kern Junior which I'll bring along supplying WAV files, 16 bit, 44.1kHz, bog std. CD quality.

        We'll be recording the event in 4k. I bought a 128G Class 10 90/60Mbit SD card today. It recorded over four hours continuosuly, plenty for tomorrow evening.
        Alan A. Shaw
        Designer, owner
        Harbeth Audio UK

        Comment


        • #5
          Hi, Alan,

          I'm really interested in this 4k recording.

          Comment


          • #6
            Originally posted by chirhonix View Post
            Hi, Alan, I'm really interested in this 4k recording.
            Gulp. No pressure then! I better not be controversial if it's going to get a public airing!
            Alan A. Shaw
            Designer, owner
            Harbeth Audio UK

            Comment


            • #7
              Originally posted by A.S. View Post
              Gulp. No pressure then! I better not be controversial if it's going to get a public airing!
              Good lecture is worth gold. Do not bother with golden ears and gold diggers as well as their buzz at all .

              ATB

              Comment


              • #8
                Originally posted by A.S. View Post
                Gulp. No pressure then! I better not be controversial if it's going to get a public airing!
                unfortunately in todays post fact culture everything and anything can be 'controversial' so I thoroughly recommend you are.

                edit: I notice that particularly in news media the word controversial is often used to introduce a topic that is not actually controversial but the word is used to set the scene for a dissenting though un evidenced position but that seems to have the effect of immediately casting significant doubt on the evidenced position by the lay audience. It is a dangerous precedent.
                Getting to know my C7ES3

                Comment


                • #9
                  Hadn't thought of that! I'll use that as my opening gambit! Thanks
                  Alan A. Shaw
                  Designer, owner
                  Harbeth Audio UK

                  Comment


                  • #10
                    So what do you think Alan? Did they pick up the message?

                    Comment

                    Working...
                    X