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Identifying system components for their sonic neutrality should logically proceed from the interpretation and analysis of their technical, objective performance. Deviations from a flat frequency response at any point along the signal chain from microphone to ear is likely to give an audible sonic personality to the system at your ear; this includes the significant contribution of the listening room itself. To accurately reproduce the recorded sound as Harbeth speakers are designed to do, you would be best advised to select system components (sources, electronics, cables and so on) that do not color the sound before it reaches the speakers.

For example, the design of and interaction between the hifi amplifier and its speaker load can and will alter the sound balance of what you hear. This may or may not be what you wish to achieve, but any deviation from a flat response is a step away from a truly neutral system. HUG has extensively discussed amplifiers and the methods for seeking the most objectively neutral among a plethora of product choices.

HUG specialises in making complex technical matters simple to understand, getting at the repeatable facts in a post-truth environment where objectivity is increasingly ridiculed. With our heritage of natural sound and pragmatic design, HUG is not the best place to discuss non-Harbeth audio components selected, knowingly or not, to introduce a significantly personalised system sound. For that you should do your own research and above all, make the effort to visit an Authorised Dealer and listen to your music at your loudness on your loudspeakers through the various offerings there. There is really no on-line substitute for time invested in a dealer's showroom because 'tuning' your system to taste is such a highly personal matter. Our overall objective here is to empower readers to make the factually best procurement decisions in the interests of lifelike music at home.

Please consider carefully how much you should rely upon and be influenced by the subjective opinions of strangers. Their hearing acuity and taste will be different to yours, as will be their motives and budget, their listening distance, loudness and room treatment, not necessarily leading to appropriate equipment selection and listening satisfaction for you. Always keep in mind that without basic test equipment, subjective opinions will reign unchallenged. With test equipment, universal facts and truths are exposed.

If some of the science behind faithfully reproducing the sound intended by the composer, score, conductor and musicians over Harbeth speakers is your thing, this forum has been helping with that since 2006. If you just want to share your opinions and photos with others then the unrelated Harbeth Speakers Facebook page may be for you. Either way, welcome to the world of Harbeth!"

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    We have successfully used Flash .swf audio clips across this site. Apple do not like Flash in their iPad products and we are aware of the growing market for these units. We find the Flash system very convenient to implement and we are surprised by Apple's hostility to Flash.

    Please test this page for playability. It is an alternative player solution and has HTML5 long-term support. You should hear some music. Does it play on PC? mac? iPad? iPhone? Android phone? Other smart phone? Linux?

    Embedded version test:



  • #2
    Opera, Firefox, Win7 SP1 = OK

    Works fine in my PC laptop: Win7, SP1 with both Opera 11.01 and Firefox 3.6.16


    • #3
      iPad = OK

      iPad - ok.

      {New piano strack stereo}


      • #4
        Win 7, Internet Explorer 8 = OK

        Works fine with on my pc with windows 7 and internet explorer 8....


        • #5
          Vista Business Sp2 + Firefox 3.6 and Firefox 4.0 = OK

          Works as intended.
          Alan A. Shaw
          Designer, owner
          Harbeth Audio UK


          • #6
            iPhone 4 (software 4.2.1) = OK

            iPhone 4 OK (Software 4.2.1)
            Over 3G connection.
            Last edited by Bodfish; 30-03-2011, 05:31 PM. Reason: Additional info


            • #7
              Worked on all my toys...

              PC Laptop Win 7 Pro IE9
              Blackberry 9700 os6
              ITouch 4G


              • #8
                Dell Streak, Android 2.2, Dolphin browser - 3G connection

                Player (eventually) appeared and (eventually) music started to play (in small chunks) over slow GPS connection.
                Alan A. Shaw
                Designer, owner
                Harbeth Audio UK


                • #9
                  Mac OSX (10.6.7) with Safari 5.0.4 and Firefox 3.6.15 = OK
                  iPhone (IOS 4.3) = OK


                  • #10
                    Clarifying my PC laptop specs.

                    Windows 7 and Internet Explorer 8= OK


                    • #11
                      Worked weil on Mac OSX (10.6.7) with Safari 5.0.4
                      Worked well on iPad with (IOS 4.3)
                      Worked well on iPhone with (IOS 4.3)

                      I believe Apple's primary issue with Flash has to do with it's inherent inefficiencies which have a negative impact on battery life. I may be wrong.



                      • #12
                        Flash and security

                        Originally posted by HUG-1 View Post
                        We are surprised by Apple's hostility to Flash.
                        The cold war between Apple & Adobe is one of the great modern corporate slanging matches.

                        See this for a rather one-sided view of the problem. But from my own, highly biased, perspective - Flash has thrown up some truly awful security issues. Not too significant for the Harbeth web site, but for those sites involving commerce or confidential...


                        • #13
                          Android, Mac 10.5.2 and XP all ok

                          Android 2.2: OK.
                          Win XP corporate build: OK.
                          Mac OS X 10.5.2: OK.


                          • #14
                            OK thanks David - that concludes the feedback, on the basis of which I think we can safely migrate future embedded audio to the new MP3 player and away from the Flash player. The functionality to you the user should be identical.

                            Later we will look at replacing Flash video with some other cross-compatible video system.

                            P.S. Good luck with the marketing of your new Fujitsu business-targeted pad solution. Anyone using a consumer-targeted iPad for a business application would be mad not to consider security very carefully.
                            Alan A. Shaw
                            Designer, owner
                            Harbeth Audio UK


                            • #15

                              Multiple MP3 players in one post test - three MP3 players applets should be visible at all times, and be individually controllable (play, pause etc.)

                              TEXT HERE

                              MORE TEXT

                              EVEN MORE

                              On Windows 7/Ult/SP1 (home) have full control and can start/stop any of the three at will. So, looks like we can now switch from Flash embedded audio to MP3 embedded and be completely cross compatible even with iPad.
                              Alan A. Shaw
                              Designer, owner
                              Harbeth Audio UK