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Kuala Lumpur Audio/Video International (KLIAV) 2011

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  • Kuala Lumpur Audio/Video International (KLIAV) 2011

    Well, so i just came back from the KLIAV 2011 that was held over the weekend & i am excited to say that the P3ESR, demonstrated by Tropical Audio, was the star of the show despite it being the smallest spk there. Amidst all the other much bigger & expensive spks where the loudest boom, bang & tizz was supposed to win the day, the P3ESR distinguished itself with a thoroughly musical & natural presentation. Vocals especially, was simply top notch being spookily real, natural & richly textured without being forward at all. I feel that none of the other spks (some as costly as a semi-detached house in M'sia) at the show could do vocals quite like the dimunitive P3ESR. Even the venerable LS3/5A showcased at an adjacent room (with very expensive swiss electronics) couldn't quite match the P3ESRs for tonal purity, sophistication & an inherent rightness to the sound. Immediately after the P3ESR, the quacky coloration of the LS-3/5A midband became rather obvious but the LS-3/5A was still more musically satisfying than many of the 'big boys' there IMHO.

    In addition, the P3ESR didn't just sound good with simple or vocal music, it handled big band & difficult classical pieces with equal aplomb sounding bigger & more dynamic than it should. Bass was sufficiently weighty & well defined. Soundstage was appropriately expansive & 3 dimensional. When Sam played Amanda Mcbroom's emotionally packed 'Portrait' on the P3ESR, it almost made me tear. A fellow show goer quipped that after his getting his ears badly abused by the other spks, it was a definite welcome change to sit down, relax & get lost in the music with the P3ESRs.

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    My P3ESR sound like real

    Originally posted by Gan CK View Post
    Well, so i just came back from the KLIAV 2011 that was held over the weekend & i am excited to say that the P3ESR, demonstrated by Tropical Audio, was the star of the show despite it being the smallest spk there. Amidst all the other much bigger & expensive spks where the loudest boom, bang & tizz was supposed to win the day, the P3ESR distinguished itself with a thoroughly musical & natural presentation. Vocals especially, was simply top notch being spookily real, natural & richly textured without being forward at all. I feel that none of the other spks (some as costly as a semi-detached house in M'sia) at the show could do vocals quite like the dimunitive P3ESR. Even the venerable LS3/5A showcased at an adjacent room (with very expensive swiss electronics) couldn't quite match the P3ESRs for tonal purity, sophistication & an inherent rightness to the sound. Immediately after the P3ESR, the quacky coloration of the LS-3/5A midband became rather obvious but the LS-3/5A was still more musically satisfying than many of the 'big boys' there IMHO.

    In addition, the P3ESR didn't just sound good with simple or vocal music, it handled big band & difficult classical pieces with equal aplomb sounding bigger & more dynamic than it should. Bass was sufficiently weighty & well defined. Soundstage was appropriately expansive & 3 dimensional. When Sam played Amanda Mcbroom's emotionally packed 'Portrait' on the P3ESR, it almost made me tear. A fellow show goer quipped that after his getting his ears badly abused by the other spks, it was a definite welcome change to sit down, relax & get lost in the music with the P3ESRs.

    That sounds right to me,very happy with endorsements one after another after purchasing the P3ESR's, many audiophile friends ask me whether I continue to enjoy them and when will I upgrade, I for one can't see an upgrade. They sound like it is happening in my room.

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    • #3
      Upgrade from P3ESR? How???? Imposible

      Make no mistake Kraiker, the P3ESR is a cracker of a spk, even in comparison to spks much larger & much more costly than itself. I am now seriously considering getting a pair for my bedroom when the bedroom becomes available. Its definitely a reference standard mini monitor & thoroughly deserves all the praises heaped on it & more. Upgrade? Other than going for the larger Harbeths, i really cannot see how one can upgrade from the wonderful P3ESR!

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      • #4
        Beaten the upgrade bug with the P3ESR?

        I have yet to hear any sibilance in music produced by the P3ESR's with Leben CS300X driving them. I have never heard any speaker or headphone system without sibilance from one song or another.

        I might have just beaten the upgrade bug.

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        • #5
          3/5a and it's unique sound.

          Originally posted by Gan CK View Post
          Well, so i just came back from the KLIAV 2011 that was held over the weekend & i am excited to say that the P3ESR, demonstrated by Tropical Audio, was the star of the show despite it being the smallest spk there. Amidst all the other much bigger & expensive spks where the loudest boom, bang & tizz was supposed to win the day, the P3ESR distinguished itself with a thoroughly musical & natural presentation...... Even the venerable LS3/5A showcased at an adjacent room (with very expensive swiss electronics) couldn't quite match the P3ESRs for tonal purity, sophistication & an inherent rightness to the sound. Immediately after the P3ESR, the quacky coloration of the LS-3/5A midband became rather obvious
          It's interesting that you should say that. As you know, it was back in 1990 (over twenty years ago) that it became apparent to me that on a live-v-reproduced test (this was written up in 'Schoolboy's Ambition' at the time) using my daughter's live v. reproduced voice, that the venerable 3/5a had a presence and as you say, some associated coloration, which was just not there in her actual voice.

          Not unpleasant to listen to, but certainly not truly her inside the box. Picture from the time (she's 28 now) of the original P3 which came out of my piqued intrigue with the 3/5a, some two or so years after we were granted the BBC licence.

          And as we know, the 3/5a ages horribly and the sonic result depends on numerable factors, not the least of which was the batch to batch stability of the bass units as supplied by KEF.

          Picture to follow ....
          Alan A. Shaw
          Designer, owner
          Harbeth Audio UK

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