HUG - here for all audio enthusiasts

The Harbeth User Group is the primary channel for public communication with Harbeth's HQ. If you have a 'scientific mind' and are curious about how the ear works, how it can lead us to make the right - and wrong - audio equipment decisions, and about the technical ins and outs of audio equipment, how it's designed and what choices the designer makes, then the factual Science of Audio sub-forum area of HUG is your place. The objective methods of comparing audio equipment under controlled conditions has been thoroughly examined here on HUG and elsewhere and should be accessible to non-experts and able to be tried-out at home without deep technical knowledge. From a design perspective, today's award winning Harbeths could not have been designed any other way.

Alternatively, if you just like chatting about audio and subjectivity rules for you, then the Subjective Soundings area is you. If you are quite set in your subjectivity, then HUG is likely to be a bit too fact based for you, as many of the contributors have maximised their pleasure in home music reproduction by allowing their head to rule their heart. If upon examination we think that Posts are better suited to one sub-forum than than the other, they will be redirected during Moderation, which is applied throughout the site.

Questions and Posts about, for example, 'does amplifier A sounds better than amplifier B' or 'which speaker stands or cables are best' are suitable for the Subjective Soundings area only, although HUG is really not the best place to have these sort of purely subjective airings.

The Moderators' decision is final in all matters and Harbeth does not necessarily agree with the contents of any member contributions, especially in the Subjective Soundings area, and has no control over external content.

That's it! Enjoy!

{Updated Oct. 2017}
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  • #61
    Ignoring the primary limitation - the room itself

    Originally posted by DSRANCE View Post
    It's my experience and view that Harbeth speakers aren't usually a 'first purchase.' many/most? owners have done the audiophool 'thang' and come out the other end much wiser. Audiophiles/Audiophools?
    Guilty as charged.

    Reading reviews from the 1950's to the early 1980's I recall the manufacturer used to publish the relevant performance data and the main job of the reviewer was to check that data and provide a technical explanation of the product.

    Like DRANCE, I have recently done some DSP tests - with REW, Dirac and a 50 StudioSpares microphone. Unusually, no peaks, but a dip at 60-100Hz, that I could hear easily before testing, mostly cured by moving the seating position forward about 2 feet. Otherwise, surprisingly OK.

    That said, I can never recall reading anything about DSP or room correction in an audio magazine. Obviously not commercially worthwhile. Alternatively, it could be argued that the publisher would not want to admit that all the audio they've previously persuaded you to buy sounds like <expletive of choice> if you haven't fixed your room acoustics.


    • #62
      Trusting objectivity

      Originally posted by A.S. View Post
      I opened my micro-talk in Rotterdam last week by saying that were I the audience, in the market for quality hifi equipment, reading the audio media would simply confuse me at best thanks to contradictory opinions, and perhaps dissuade me from buying anything at all. The point I made was 'just who can you trust?'.

      The talk was recorded in high resolution 4k MP4, which we have now standardised on. We've upgraded our non-linear editing software and if we can find a practical way of editing it, maybe I can place that element here?
      Please do post if you can I'd love to hear it. As far as trust, I don't know it's got to be a nightmare for the average consumer. I do like the Harbeth approach whereby they reach out to the consumer via the user group to explain the issues in a objective and practical way. Seems like a consumer could trust a company doing an honest business in that manner.