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"This Harbeth User Group (HUG) is the Manufacturer's own managed forum dedicated to natural sound from microphone to ear, achievable by recognising and controlling the numerous confounding variables that exist along the audio chain. The Harbeth designer's objective is to make loudspeakers that contribute little of themselves to the music passing through them.

Identifying system components for their sonic neutrality should logically proceed from the interpretation and analysis of their technical, objective performance. Deviations from a flat frequency response at any point along the signal chain from microphone to ear is likely to give an audible sonic personality to the system at your ear; this includes the significant contribution of the listening room itself. To accurately reproduce the recorded sound as Harbeth speakers are designed to do, you would be best advised to select system components (sources, electronics, cables and so on) that do not color the sound before it reaches the speakers.

For example, the design of and interaction between the hifi amplifier and its speaker load can and will alter the sound balance of what you hear. This may or may not be what you wish to achieve, but any deviation from a flat response is a step away from a truly neutral system. HUG has extensively discussed amplifiers and the methods for seeking the most objectively neutral among a plethora of product choices.

HUG specialises in making complex technical matters simple to understand, getting at the repeatable facts in a post-truth environment where objectivity is increasingly ridiculed. With our heritage of natural sound and pragmatic design, HUG is not the best place to discuss non-Harbeth audio components selected, knowingly or not, to introduce a significantly personalised system sound. For that you should do your own research and above all, make the effort to visit an Authorised Dealer and listen to your music at your loudness on your loudspeakers through the various offerings there. There is really no on-line substitute for time invested in a dealer's showroom because 'tuning' your system to taste is such a highly personal matter. Our overall objective here is to empower readers to make the factually best procurement decisions in the interests of lifelike music at home.

Please consider carefully how much you should rely upon and be influenced by the subjective opinions of strangers. Their hearing acuity and taste will be different to yours, as will be their motives and budget, their listening distance, loudness and room treatment, not necessarily leading to appropriate equipment selection and listening satisfaction for you. Always keep in mind that without basic test equipment, subjective opinions will reign unchallenged. With test equipment, universal facts and truths are exposed.

If some of the science behind faithfully reproducing the sound intended by the composer, score, conductor and musicians over Harbeth speakers is your thing, this forum has been helping with that since 2006. If you just want to share your opinions and photos with others then the unrelated Harbeth Speakers Facebook page http://bit.ly/2FEgoAy may be for you. Either way, welcome to the world of Harbeth!"


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  • Excited order

    Just ordered my first pair of Harbeths. P3ESR in rosewood. Now counting down the days.

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    P3s changed my listening

    Congratulations!
    I own a pair in rosewood myself they changed my understanding of what true hifi is.
    They do not get in the way of music, they do not colour the sound, they are simply a window to it.
    You will not be disappointed.
    I've only had mine for a month or so, and I still laugh out loud listening to LPs because of how amazingly true of timbre, tone and decay instruments are reproduced.

    Originally posted by greatwhite View Post
    Just ordered my first pair of Harbeths. P3ESR in rosewood. Now counting down the days.

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    • #3
      Reliving my discs

      Thanks. Yes they are amazing little boxes and I am looking forward to going through my favourite discs again.

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      • #4
        Escape from audiophile sound (with Harbeth)

        Just listened to the SHL5.. Couldn't have agreed more.. The timbre, tone and decay of the violin and piano were just amazing.. Never have I heard so much 'music'. And the vocals.. Wow.. Came back home to my system and now I know what it means by hifi sound..

        I find the Harbeth may not sound impressive immediately but it grows on you and it is addictive and then you realised how the other speakers just give you the hifi, audiophile sound. I am going to order the rosewood version too.. I heard the local dealer said it is going to be some anniversary version with better internal wiring..:-)

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        • #5
          Christmas now!

          Sounds good. We both have an early christmas present!

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          • #6
            Trade-up?

            Originally posted by greatwhite View Post
            Just ordered my first pair of Harbeths. P3ESR in rosewood. Now counting down the days.
            I, too, would love a pair. If someone gave me a good price for my HL-P3s I would order a pair of P3ESRs immediately !

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            • #7
              Price?

              Originally posted by Miles MG View Post
              I, too, would love a pair. If someone gave me a good price for my HL-P3s I would order a pair of P3ESRs immediately !
              Which would be roughly?

              Best

              James

              {Moderator's comment: please correspond directly, thanks}

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              • #8
                My musical Harbeths

                Originally posted by Miles MG View Post
                I, too, would love a pair. If someone gave me a good price for my HL-P3s I would order a pair of P3ESRs immediately !
                Well, my P3ESRs have arrived. Everything I hoped they would be... Someone has bought the HL-P3s, so it's all worked out well.
                I now own the latest in Harbeth technology and also have examples of the first Harbeth speakers, the HL Monitors. These are Serial Number 228 A & B, so an early pair.
                Much musical satisfaction from both pairs of Harbeths, so I will not be buying any more speakers.

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