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A Harbeth centre channel speaker

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  • #76
    Size is a serious issue

    I too agree with mod the size really is a serious consideration as I raised this in #3. Majority of the TH guys care only for bass and blasting effect, don't care about true center quality or care in a very different way.

    Why not create a poll to understand how many true harbeth lovers in HUG use Harbeth for movie or use more for stereo or surround.

    {Moderator's comment: we've tried polling (here) before. Too few replies. We cannot make sensible business decisions based on 0.1% of HUG membership responses. That is not enough feedback.}
    "Bath with Music"

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    • #77
      Incentives

      Originally posted by keithwwk View Post
      {Moderator's comment: we've tried polling (here) before. Too few replies. We cannot make sensible business decisions based on 0.1% of HUG membership responses. That is not enough feedback.}
      Have you considered incentives? Prize draw, discount coupon, etc. That could drive up your response rate.

      {Moderator's comment: .... but would they actually buy?}

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      • #78
        Centre channel takers?

        Anyone want to go 50/50 on a pair of SHL5's, split the pair for use as a center channel and report back to HUG on the SQ?

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        • #79
          Thin and wide, if you must have centre channel

          My priority is for stereo music. So, given that I do not want to clutter my lounge too much, the choice was between five smaller surround speakers or two larger stereo ones, and also listen to movie audio in stereo. In my view, two large stereo speakers give better sound than five small ones, even for movies.

          However, if one wants surround, I think the centre speaker should be as shallow as possible (10-15 cm) to blend with ever thinner televisions, quite low (15-20 cm), and as wide as is necessary to have enough internal volume (even 1 metre would be fine). One important technical concern would be that the speaker should be designed to sound best when fitted flush against the wall (as are modern televisions).

          Altogether I am sure this is quite a challenge. I don't think a Centre speaker needs to be enormous or designed to work best with very large speakers. I at least would never combine one with something like an M40.1. The largest combination that I would find domestically tolerable would be something like two M30.1 fronts, two P3ESR rears, a smallish centre such as I outlined, and a sub of medium size proportions.
          Willem

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          • #80
            Centre?

            Whatever happened to this idea?

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