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"This Harbeth User Group (HUG) is the Manufacturer's own managed forum dedicated to natural sound, realisable by controlling the confounding variables between tthe microphone and the listeners' ears.

For example, the design of and interaction between the hifi amplifier and its speaker load can and potentially will alter the sound balance of what you hear. To reproduce the sounds captured by the recording microphones, as Harbeth speakers are designed to do, you would naturally select system components (sources, electronics, cables and so on) that do not color the sound before it reaches the speakers.

Identifying components for their system neutrality should, logically, start with the interpretation and analysis of their technical, objective performance, as any and every deviation from a measurably flat frequency response at any point along the serial chain from microphone to ear is very likely to cause the total system to have an audible sonic personality. That includes the contribution of the listening room itself.

HUG specialises in making complex technical matters simple to understand, aiding the identification of audio components likely to maintain a faithful relationship between the recorded sound and the sound you hear. With our heritage of natural sound, HUG cannot be really be expected to guide in the selection, approval, endorsement or even discussion of equipment that is intend to introduce a significantly personalised sound to the audio signal chain. For that you should do your own research and above all, make the effort to visit an Authorised Dealer and listen to your music at your loudness on your loudspeakers through the various electronics offered there. There is no on-line substitute for that time investment in a dealer's showroom.

If you desire to intentionally tune your system sound to your personal taste, please consider carefully how much you should rely upon the subjective opinions of strangers. Their hearing acuity and taste will be different to yours, as will be their motives and budget, their listening distance, listening loudness and listening room treatment, not necessarily leading to appropriate equipment selection and listening satisfaction for you.

Alternatively, if faithfully reproducing the sound intended by the composer, score, conductor and musicians over your speakers is your audio dream, then understanding something of the issues likely to fulfill that objective is what this forum has been helping with since 2006. Welcome!"


Jan. 2018
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My first listen to the P3ESR, M30 and Compact 7ES3 ... could listen for hours

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  • #16
    P3ESR in 30m2 room

    Originally posted by engjoo View Post
    Tim,

    Thank you for sharing. May I know how big is your room and the distance you had placed the P3esr from the rear wall?
    Hi

    The room is about 30 sq. meter and about 2,5 to 3m in height (sloping ceiling) .. the speakers are placed about 50cm away from the wall.

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    • #17
      Only Harbeth can reproduce french horn

      Originally posted by KT88 View Post
      Hello, TimVG

      I'm also a performing musician (symphony and chamber music, on the trombone) and was naturally drawn to Harbeth as well. Usually we musicians can use our imagination and "tonal memory" to fill in missing bass, and even though my Monitor 30's are shy an octave or so of bass, I don't really miss it at all!

      I'm curious to know on what and where you perform.

      Music lives on Planet Harbeth!

      Cheers!

      Bob La Barca
      State College, PA
      USA
      I play french horn is a couple of orchestras and teach in weekends!

      Harbeth was in fact the only brand that, for me at least, could produce the true sound of the french horn. For those that don't know; the french horn has an enormous amount of overtones (the normal playing register for the instrument is rather high compared to the length of the instrument). Not much speakers can accurately produce this.

      A good french horn recording is a great test (or torture test for the bad ones) for a speaker system. If voices and french horns sound natural, you can bet your life anything will!

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      • #18
        Acoustic instruments and Harbeth speakers

        So happy to see two of the acoustic instrument players here share their passion on Harbeth. The way Harbeth reproduce acoustic instrument sound is second to none. This is the main reason Harbeth is the only speaker i want to own for life. The original P3 brought me to Harbeth. The latest P3esr is the best speaker i ever in this size. Cheers.

        {Moderator's comment: are you aware that (as we have discussed before) it is the unique Harbeth RADIAL cone material that is uniquely clean sounding?}
        "Bath with Music"

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        • #19
          RADIAL sounds just right!

          {Moderator's comment: are you aware that (as we have discussed before) it is the unique Harbeth RADIAL cone material that is uniquely clean sounding?}
          Of course I aware of that. The RADIAL cone sound just right. My 7 and 5 sound are uniquely clean. I love them very much.
          "Bath with Music"

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          • #20
            Horns and demo CDs

            Originally posted by TimVG View Post
            I play french horn is a couple of orchestras and teach in weekends!

            Harbeth was in fact the only brand that, for me at least, could produce the true sound of the french horn. For those that don't know; the french horn has an enormous amount of overtones (the normal playing register for the instrument is rather high compared to the length of the instrument). Not much speakers can accurately produce this.

            A good french horn recording is a great test (or torture test for the bad ones) for a speaker system. If voices and french horns sound natural, you can bet your life anything will!
            Tim
            Any cd(s )you can recommend? I like music of the Baroque and classical periods.

            thanks in advance,
            tinears

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            • #21
              Great recordings of horns to showcase Harbeth RADIAL technology

              Hey, tinears and Tim VG

              Here are three great ones, featuring natural horns

              The Six Brandenburgs, JS Bach New London Consort L'Oiseau-Lyre 440 675-2

              Vivaldi for Diverse Instruments Philharmonia Baroque Orchestra Reference Recordings RR 77

              Handel Water Music " " " Harmonia Mundi 907010

              This is the BEST Water Music I've ever heard, musically and as a recording.

              Enjoy!

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              • #22
                Perid instruments

                KT88 wrote:
                "The Six Brandenburgs, JS Bach New London Consort L'Oiseau-Lyre 440 675-2

                Vivaldi for Diverse Instruments Philharmonia Baroque Orchestra Reference Recordings RR 77

                Handel Water Music " " " Harmonia Mundi 907010

                This is the BEST Water Music I've ever heard, musically and as a recording."

                Thanks KT88. I heard many good things about the HM version of Water Music, but I bought the Pinnock version because I could not find the HM version. That was many years ago. It's still in period instruments. I will have to chase up this HM version, and the other ones you listed.

                cheers.

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                • #23
                  Baroque

                  Originally posted by tinears02 View Post
                  Tim
                  Any cd(s)you can recommend? I like music of the Baroque and classical periods.

                  thanks in advance,
                  tinears
                  Not anything specific I can think of.. But, some good horn albums are 'The art of the vienna horn' by Wolfgang Tomböck and 'sonatas by Beethoven, Hindemith and Heiden' by John Cerminaro.. both feature great sound quality and tremendous playing.

                  {Moderator's comment: do you have CD catalogue numbers please?}

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                  • #24
                    Catalogue nos

                    Originally posted by TimVG View Post

                    {Moderator's comment: do you have CD catalogue numbers please?}
                    The art of the Vienna Horn was released through Naxos (cat. no. 8.557471)

                    And the CD by John Cerminaro through Crystal Records (album ID: 11637)

                    That's all I could find.. you easily find both albums through google if you need any further information.

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                    • #25
                      The sound of brass - The RADIAL™ advantage

                      I can't believe I've had my P3ESR's now for almost two years. Just yesterday, late at night, I was working on the computer while listening to some tunes with the lights dimmed.. I just had to stop to listen for a while, slowly turning up the volume just a bit more, until it felt like I was right there in the studio booth.

                      That's special about these speakers, apart from their very natural sound, they have this incredibly accurate decay quality. When a brass section instantly ends a phrase, and you can hear this hint of reverb, coming from the very dry studio booth. That's just quality. No other brand has ever done that for me.

                      {Moderator's comment: you are hearing deep into the recording, thanks to Harbeth's RADIAL™ cone material - it's really that simple!}

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