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For example, the design of and interaction between the hifi amplifier and its speaker load can and potentially will alter the sound balance of what you hear. To reproduce the sounds captured by the recording microphones, as Harbeth speakers are designed to do, you would naturally select system components (sources, electronics, cables and so on) that do not color the sound before it reaches the speakers.

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Jan. 2018
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What defines a great speaker?

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  • #16
    Re: What defines a great speaker?

    I can't see any reason why you couldn't vote - assuming that you were logged in! I made a test vote - could you and other logged-in members try and vote?

    I know that we've had problems in the past with the poll facility here which I thought had been fixed.
    Alan A. Shaw
    Designer, owner
    Harbeth Audio UK

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    • #17
      Re: What defines a great speaker?

      1 Clarity, image and soundstage - timbre and tonal truthfulness to reality, so many fail here
      2 Design heritage - what does the designer believe in ?
      3 Excellent QC - without which you have very little
      4 Styling - should enhance domestic appearances not detract

      Like Alan said, it's speakers and microphones which have the most room for improvement (as well as the difficult task of converting sound to signal and vice versa etc.

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      • #18
        Re: What defines a great speaker?

        Yes, I'm logged in. I only see the results of the polling (one vote for 'clarity, image and soundstage') and a message at the bottom of the poll results tellling me that I'm disenfranchised!

        It may be because I use Safari as my browser; most websites are optimised for Explorer, I suppose.

        In the spirit intended, I'd vote:

        Unique technology
        Design heritage
        Stand mounting
        Excellent QC

        ...although, I also appreciate the empathy from the manufacturer; and being able to communicate with him across the miles!

        BTW in a couple weeks' time, I shall have my Compact 7 demo in Portland! Finally get to hear these wonderful speakers I've been hearing about.

        Best,
        Rabbit

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        • #19
          Re: What defines a great speaker?

          1. Clarity, image and sound stage
          2. Excellent QC (Quality Control) - ISO9001 etc.
          3. Unique technology (cabinet, drive units, crossover etc.)
          4. Design heritage

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          • #20
            Re: What defines a great speaker?

            It"s a problem with the pool:

            View Poll Results: 4 most important factors in a great speaker. PICK 4 ONLY!
            Styling 0 0%
            Unique technology (cabinet, drive units, crossover etc.) 0 0%
            Design heritage 0 0%
            Clarity, image and sound stage 1 100.00%
            Stand mounting 0 0%
            Floor standing 0 0%
            Hand made in the UK 0 0%
            Excellent QC (Quality Control) - ISO9001 etc. 0 0%
            Understanding of the designer's philosophy 0 0%
            Empathy with the manufacturer 0 0%
            Multiple Choice Poll. Voters: 1. You may not vote on this poll

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            • #21
              Re: What defines a great speaker?

              Interesting breakdown. Only one choice has to do with the sound, and not, perhaps, the most important aspect of the sound.

              So for me,

              First is tonal balance. It is key that no range jumps out unnaturally and alters timbre or the feel of the recording, or makes the bass seem like it lags. Second is a sense of tunefulness which I think comes from a neutral and pure midrange. Third is something I can't quite put my finger on, but a sort of physicality that makes it seem like there is a solid object producing sound. Some might call this imaging and soundstaging, but I'm not sure that's exactly it. Fourth is clarity and detail, but it must be coupled with a naturalness. Fifth is empathy with and understanding of the design--whether "high tech" or not it should make sense. Sixth is qc and service.

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              • #22
                Re: What defines a great speaker?

                In all my audio gear I want three things, great sound, reliability, and a company with a history of standing behind there product. Its also nice to know there design philosophy, but not a must for me.

                1. Clarity, image, soundstage
                2. Excellent quality control
                3. Design Heritage

                4. Understanding designers philosophy

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                • #23
                  Re: What defines a great speaker?

                  I took the poll but for those of us who are after the best sound it is kind of irrelevant. It would have been more interesting to see a list of audio attributes which (I guess) the designer trades of according to price and size such as;

                  mid range accuracy
                  support for lower ocatave(s)
                  balance
                  response in typical rooms
                  sound stage
                  dynamics
                  sensitivity
                  resistance

                  and so on

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