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Jan. 2018
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What defines a great speaker?

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  • What defines a great speaker?

    PLEASE READ BEFORE ANSWERING THE POLL

    I am interested to know from the user's side what aspects of the design or a really good speaker you may consider to be the most important. For example - is the styling of the cabinet of paramount importance - or perhaps the underlying technology?

    Feels free to contribute! I am very interested in your ideas.

    PLEASE PICK THE MOST IMPORTANT 4 ITEMS WHEN REPLYING TO THE POLL
    155
    Styling
    7.10%
    11
    Unique technology (cabinet, drive units, crossover etc.)
    16.77%
    26
    Design heritage
    8.39%
    13
    Clarity, image and sound stage
    24.52%
    38
    Stand mounting
    1.29%
    2
    Floor standing
    0.65%
    1
    Hand made in the UK
    5.16%
    8
    Excellent QC (Quality Control) - ISO9001 etc.
    16.13%
    25
    Understanding of the designer's philosophy
    14.84%
    23
    Empathy with the manufacturer
    5.16%
    8
    Alan A. Shaw
    Designer, owner
    Harbeth Audio UK

  • #2
    Re: What defines a great speaker?

    Styling
    Hand made in the UK
    Excellent QC
    Empathy with the manufacturer

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    • #3
      Re: What defines a great speaker?

      1. Clarity, image and sound stage
      2. Unique technology (cabinet, drive units, crossover etc.)
      3. Understanding of the designer's philosophy
      4. Excellent QC

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      • #4
        Re: What defines a great speaker?

        1. Clarity, image and sound stage
        2. Excellent QC
        3. Empathy with the manufacturer
        4. Understanding of the designer's philosophy

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        • #5
          Re: What defines a great speaker?

          1. Clarity, image and sound stage
          2. Unique technology (cabinet, drive units, crossover etc.)
          3. Excellent QC
          4. Styling

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          • #6
            Re: What defines a great speaker?

            Clarity of image and sound stage
            Understanding the designer's philosophy
            Design heritage

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            • #7
              Re: What defines a great speaker?

              In order of importance to me:

              1) Clarity, image and sound stage
              2) Excellent QC
              3) Unique technology (cabinet, drive units, crossover etc.) (only if it contributes to #1 above... I will not pay extra for unique technology just for "bragging rights")
              4) Styling

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              • #8
                Re: What defines a great speaker?

                Clarity image and sound stage
                Empathy with the manufacturer
                Design heritage
                Hand made in the UK

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                • #9
                  Re: What defines a great speaker?

                  Understanding of the designer's philosophy
                  Clarity, image and sound stage
                  Unique technology (cabinet, drive units, crossover etc.)
                  Excellent QC (Quality Control) - ISO9001 etc.

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                  • #10
                    Re: What defines a great speaker?

                    Timbre truthfulness.
                    Clarity, image, sound stage.
                    Unique technology (drivers, crossover).
                    Quality control.

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                    • #11
                      Re: What defines a great speaker?

                      1. Clarity, image and sound stage. Plus low colouration, of course.

                      2. Excellent QC (Quality Control) - ISO9001 etc. IME, speakers with good pair
                      matching give an excellent stereo image.

                      3. Floor standing. All else being equal- not always the case, I admit - why waste
                      volume?

                      4. Empathy with the manufacturer. Just like Quad, Spendor, SME, et al in the Good
                      Old Days.

                      Item 4 dates me, I suppose.

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                      • #12
                        Re: What defines a great speaker?

                        What makes a great speaker ?

                        great music . But most of all enjoyment which means you hear the music you want as you want to hear it without fatigue and false emphasis.

                        I can not reconcile that to the items listed ,or maybe I am just being awkward. But I hope not ,I know when a speaker is right for me and it makes me look forward to getting home and putting on some music.It helps me enjoy and listen to new challenging music and to see value in music i do not even like. all of that makes a great speaker but I honestly could not define it

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                        • #13
                          Re: What defines a great speaker?

                          The priorities have changed for me over the years, but here goes...

                          1, Empathy with the manufacturer
                          2, Understanding of the designer's philosophy
                          3, Excellent QC (Quality Control) - ISO9001 etc.
                          4, Design heritage

                          ...and not always in that order, looking again.

                          All the HiFi buzzwords I'd expect as a balanced given, but most importantly of all for me is INVOLVEMENT! I like to react emotionally to the music being played and great speakers do this in spades.

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                          • #14
                            Re: What defines a great speaker?

                            Clarity, image and sound stage 40%
                            Styling 40%
                            Excellent QC 20%

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                            • #15
                              Re: What defines a great speaker?

                              It says I'm not allowed to vote in this poll, but my main reply would be that a great speaker "gets out of the way of the music." The older I get, the less all other considerations factor in.

                              Cheers,
                              Rabbit

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