HUG - here for all audio enthusiasts

At its inception ten years ago, the Harbeth User Group's ambition was to create a lasting knowledge archive. Knowledge is based on facts and observations. Knowledge is timeless, independent of the observer and can be replicated. However, we live in new world in which objective facts have become flexible, personal and debatable. HUG operates in that real world, and that has now been reflected in the structure of HUG.

HUG has two approaches to contributor's Posts. If you, like us, have a scientific mind and are curious about how the ear works, how it can lead us to make the right - and wrong - decisions, and about the technical ins and outs of audio equipment, how it's designed and what choices the designer makes, then the factual Science of Audio sub-forum area of HUG is your place. The objective methods of comparing audio equipment under controlled conditions has been thoroughly examined here on HUG and elsewhere and can be readily understood by non-experts and tried-out at home without deep technical knowledge.

Alternatively, if you just like chatting about audio and subjectivity rules for you, then the Subjective Soundings area is you. If upon examination we think that Posts are better suited to one sub-forum than than the other, they will be redirected during Moderation, which is applied throughout the site.

Questions and Posts about, for example, 'does amplifier A sounds better than amplifier B' or 'which speaker stands or cables are best' are suitable for the Subjective Soundings area. From Oct. 2016, Posts in the Subjective Soundings area will not be spell checked or adjusted for layout clarity. We regret that but we are unable to accept Posts that present what we consider to be free advertising for products that Harbeth does not make.

The Moderators' decision is final in all matters and Harbeth does not necessarily agree with the contents of any member contributions and has no control over external content.

That's it! Enjoy!

{Updated Jan. 2017}
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  • Color appreciation and room treatment

    Hi Infobert,

    I really like them in rosewood. What are your room dimensions and which treatment do you plan to do?



    • Room treatment ongoing

      Hi Peter,

      thank you. you are completely right. That´s part of the "room treatment" project...



      • Some reflections

        Hi Sebastien,

        room dimensions are 4,5x9 meters and listening position is around 3,5m from the speakers. Next to concealing strips I still have some minor challenges with reflections/echoes as the room is "spartan" furnished. But at the end this is moaning on a very very high level...


        • Stagnated spiral!

          Originally posted by tcb1935 View Post
          maybe something is wrong in my high-end audiophile upward spiral? it has stagnated since I that curable?
          Why would you want to be cured?:-) I am very glad to be afflicted by the disease.

          Nice pic, nice set up, and looks like a great music collection, that you can look to expand with the money saved.


          • Hi bluejazz, Welcome back


            • SHL5 rosweood

              Love to see everyone's Harbeths at home, :- )
              Here's my new "babies" - SHL5's in Rosewood, along with the Blue Circle BC206-NST power amp.
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              • Originally posted by Jmohd View Post
                Hi bluejazz, Welcome back
                Hi It's been a long time . thank you for welcome.

                I think you realize who I am from YouTube No ??


                • New P3ESRs - instant upgrade

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                  Well, I've always said one day I'll upgrade my P3ES2s to ESRs and have finally done it! Here they are in cherry veneer. Apologies for the horrible TV dominating the room; it's the landlord's and is covering up a hole in the wall and a mess of cables, so it has to stay where it is.

                  What a blow I have to report! The day my speakers I've been looking forward to all week is the day I go stone deaf in my good ear! (Nothing serious, just wax, but the treatment drops make things worse before the improvement).

                  Nonetheless I couldn't resist a listen and in spite of everything the audio upgrade is instantly recognisable. A delight.
                  Ben from UK. Harbeth Super HL5 owner.


                  • Something Solid

                    Congrats Ben. The P3ESR sure looks nice on the Something Solid stands.


                    • Sudgen Masterclass with the Harbeth

                      Originally posted by ANADA View Post
                      Hi Jmhod

                      Well first the disadvantages

                      1 It is not the punchiest amp around
                      2 In complex passages it clips

                      The good points are that it is very very clear....
                      and the timbre is so spot on

                      But i want to say a few words to the forum about the bass problems that some
                      users are experiensing with the M40.1.
                      I also had these problems ...

                      Hi ANADA,

                      1. why do you think it clips?
                      Sugden SPA-4 delivers [email protected], do you mean M40.1 sucks more than this?
                      Because of source (or pre-amp) voltage output exceeds input sensitivity of the power amp?
                      Sugden SPA-4 is not a "decent" amp?
                      Should I need MPA-4 which delivers 160W for M40.1?

                      2. What dou you mean by bass problem with Sugden-Harbeth match? Did you get excess (boomy) bass; or (thin) lack of bass?
                      Which (room or amp or speaker) is the main problem?


                      • My setup

                        Originally posted by tcb1935 View Post
                        After many years of searching and spending a lot of money for hifi stuff i feel satisfaction with my SHL5 now. The only thing i have to find out, if i stay with my lavardin is or i should go for leben cs-600 (because of design issues).....

                        Beautiful shot! Published shots standard! Lovely...


                        • Shelf-mount

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                          my bookshelf 3's really do sit on a bookshelf!!
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                          • My new C7ES3

                            Hi there,

                            I'm new at Harbeth, and I just bought a pair of nice HL Compact 7 ES-3 to my setup, which is now like this:

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                            I hope you like it!


                            Jorge Marcedo


                            • Picture update

                              Originally posted by tcb1935 View Post
                              hey, here's a update. i had the chance to buy much more expensive atc active speaker, but i did not. maybe something is wrong in my high-end audiophile upward spiral? it has stagnated since I that curable?
                              Very nice shot. I think the USM range is wonderful and I just love your floor!


                              • Amp quest is over!

                                Hi Jmhod

                                I NEVER refered to the SPA4 but to the Integrated Masterclass which i think is rated at 33w. The Spa4 is the final amp i will ever need to drive any speaker.

                                It is build like a TANK and has all the Power to retrieve any subtle information from the recordings in min volume. My quest and questions about amplifiers is now finished once for all and since then i dont follow the Blog this is why my answer is also dated
                                Have a nice day all of you