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For example, the design of and interaction between the hifi amplifier and its speaker load can and will alter the sound balance of what you hear. This may or may not be what you wish to achieve, but any deviation from a flat response is a step away from a truly neutral system. HUG has extensively discussed amplifiers and the methods for seeking the most objectively neutral among a plethora of product choices.

HUG specialises in making complex technical matters simple to understand, getting at the repeatable facts in a post-truth environment where objectivity is increasingly ridiculed. With our heritage of natural sound and pragmatic design, HUG is not the best place to discuss non-Harbeth audio components selected, knowingly or not, to introduce a significantly personalised system sound. For that you should do your own research and above all, make the effort to visit an Authorised Dealer and listen to your music at your loudness on your loudspeakers through the various offerings there. There is really no on-line substitute for time invested in a dealer's showroom because 'tuning' your system to taste is such a highly personal matter. Our overall objective here is to empower readers to make the factually best procurement decisions in the interests of lifelike music at home.

Please consider carefully how much you should rely upon and be influenced by the subjective opinions of strangers. Their hearing acuity and taste will be different to yours, as will be their motives and budget, their listening distance, loudness and room treatment, not necessarily leading to appropriate equipment selection and listening satisfaction for you. Always keep in mind that without basic test equipment, subjective opinions will reign unchallenged. With test equipment, universal facts and truths are exposed.

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Photos of your beloved Harbeth Speakers & Setup

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    Photos of your beloved Harbeth Speakers & Setup

    Dear fellow harbeth owners,
    I was hoping that you all are able to share your photos of your beloved Harbeth speakers and your systems setup pictures... Be it new or old, P3, C7, HL5, SHL5, M20, M30, M40, NRG and etc.... I would appreciate if you could post photos of it!

    To Start - here's mine...



    Systems consist of
    1. Harbeth SHL-5 30th Anniversary
    2. dps2 Turntable with dps modified Rega RB250 tonearm + Benz HOMC
    3. JLTI modified Sony DVD NS90 CD/SACD Player
    4. Lavardin IS Reference Integrated Amp
    5. Audience AU24 Interconnects
    6. Kimber Kable 8TC Speaker Cable
    7. Hutters Rack Basic.

    Thanks...for looking...

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    Just in Time! Great Christmas Present.......

    More tweaking to do...... in the meantime this is a great combo and enjoying the Harbeths in a small space. Happy Holidays everyone.

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    The boys are back in town.

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  • Milosz
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    My updated Harbeth SHL5+ system, supplemented by QUAD 909 and Oppo 105D.
    Attached Files

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  • Patryks26
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    Originally posted by Patryks26 View Post
    Audition

    So the best way would be if i try to audition them by myself and not suggest of opinions other people. Thanks anyway for explanation.
    I already audition almost all of the Harbeth speakers. My conclusion is that i preferd M30.1 sound over the SHL5 and SHL5 plus, but for my taste in M30.1 there is lack of bass even in my 18m2. So after all this testing i can say that for me the only choice is M40.2, those are reference speakers for me. Lately I moved to bigger apartment and now i have 25m2 listening space.

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  • dimitrakis
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    Hi to all, I'm new here.
    This is my point of view of my SHL5
    LittleZoe EL34 prototype amp, MKii turntable.

    Cheers
    Dimitris

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  • Tony C.
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    Well, this will give readers some idea of how far from ideal my current set-up is in my small apartment. Having said that, the P3SER speakers perform remarkably well under the adverse conditions, and even sound relatively good when I am sitting at the desk, virtually between them!

    They are powered by a recapped and modified vintage Accuphase E-303x integrated amp. Sources include an Electrocompaniet EMC-1UP CD player, and Accuphase T-103 tuner.

    Cheers,

    Tony C.


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  • RichJC
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    ​Testing the harbeth 30.1
    thorens TD160 super / SME3009 / nagaoka cartridge
    leema acoustics phono stage
    linn majik DSM
    (power amp to come)
    VdH cabling
    harbeth 30.1 (ex quad 23L)
    and demo boxes and untidy mess

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    Rosewood 35th

    Harbeth M30.1 Rosewood 35th Anniversary Edition
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  • Ned Mast
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    Isolation

    I think stands might effect the sound from speakers if they have a wide, solid front, effectively extending the baffle of the speaker down to the floor. This, I think, might effect the radiation pattern from the speaker.

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  • Sepici
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    A better class of customer?

    Originally posted by ssfas View Post
    That's a seriously intellectual pair of speakers, do you read some of those titles for fun?

    Noting the light source, a point for the Moderator - do Harbeth veneers fade after excessive exposure to direct sunlight?
    Hello ssfas,

    I've read them for my college degree (Philosophy) but you can say that it was for fun, as I'm in the leather business now. Selling leather to my British customers and buying British speakers in return!

    Regards,

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  • Sepici
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    All in the Mind: naked beauty!

    Originally posted by DSRANCE View Post
    I have to be very cheeky indeed and ask - why remove the grilles when specifically asked not to by the chap who designed them? We all know what they look like under the covers and 'sounding better without the grilles' doesn't come into it... - I say this 'tongue-in-cheek' and with a respectful cheeky grin here...

    Like the unorthodox 'stands' though... Kind of flies in the face of audiophool sensibilities and I bet they don't sound 'broken' at all for not having a proper stand, do they?

    I hope you enjoy these speakers for many years to come.
    Hi DSRANCE,

    I know that they were designed to be listened with grilles on and I sometimes listen to them covered but most of the time they're naked with all their beauty laid bare while giving me the heavenly tones of my favorite composers. It is probably a psychological thing.

    "Speaker stands" work just fine for now and the sound is stable throughout during my trials with stools, chairs, small tables and such...I don't know what should speaker stands should sound like anyway, or if they have a sound or not.

    Kind Regards,

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  • ssfas
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    Fade in sunlight?

    Originally posted by Sepici View Post
    Hello,

    Bought the SHL5+ last week. Using it with Hegel H360. Different sound structure from modern "hi-fi" sound which i was used to. Very refined and true to the recording venue and sound. I don't have stands yet so using old Technics speakers as a stand.

    Regards
    That's a seriously intellectual pair of speakers, do you read some of those titles for fun?

    Noting the light source, a point for the Moderator - do Harbeth veneers fade after excessive exposure to direct sunlight?

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  • DSRANCE
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    Unorthodox stands - enjoy

    I have to be very cheeky indeed and ask - why remove the grilles when specifically asked not to by the chap who designed them? We all know what they look like under the covers and 'sounding better without the grilles' doesn't come into it... - I say this 'tongue-in-cheek' and with a respectful cheeky grin here...

    Like the unorthodox 'stands' though... Kind of flies in the face of audiophool sensibilities and I bet they don't sound 'broken' at all for not having a proper stand, do they?

    I hope you enjoy these speakers for many years to come.

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  • acroyear
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    Magnetic interaction?

    Originally posted by Sepici View Post
    Hello,

    Bought the SHL5+ last week. Using it with Hegel H360. Different sound structure from modern "hi-fi" sound which i was used to. Very refined and true to the recording venue and sound. I don't have stands yet so using old Technics speakers as a stand.

    Regards
    A nice, simple system.

    I once thought about putting a speaker on top of another as a temporary stand but did wonder if it is possible to have interaction between the drive units magnetic fields that could affect the cone movement?? I know in hifi stores the speakers are often very close, could big magnets interact with others??

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