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Harbeth HL Compact 7ES-3 specific

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  • Re: Harbeth HL Compact7ES-3 specific

    Originally posted by Gan CK View Post
    Wow....mount the C7s on proper stands & i am sure they will sound even better.
    I read somewhere that a Harbeth owner sat his SHL5s on plastic stools and he/she was really happy with the sound...maybe the wooden chairs aren't so bad after all!

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    • Re: Harbeth HL Compact7ES-3 specific

      Originally posted by timleety View Post
      I read somewhere that a Harbeth owner sat his SHL5s on plastic stools and he/she was really happy with the sound...maybe the wooden chairs aren't so bad after all!
      Yes many moons ago, i had my SHL-5 on plastic stools & they sounded pretty good indeed....only thing was that the stool was not high enough so i had somebody to do a pair of open frame metal stands which opened up the sound of the SHL-5 even further.

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      • Re: Acclimatisation to new speakers .... and pretty girls!

        Originally posted by A.S. View Post
        Your original thread is here - regardless of the general advice you may have garnered in that thread, my advice was and is something like this [....]
        Alan, in my post to the 'burn-in' thread, my jokey, 'radical' solution for speaker acclimatisation was to play music through them!

        Cheers,
        Rabbit

        p.s. I really like the lighter cherry (almost blonde) finish of my brand-new C7s; serial # 999R/L(!) Very classic-looking, handsome speakers. FYI, they sounded great right out the box. A final purchase on my hi-fi journey.

        p.p.s. I like non-conformist girls.

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        • Burning-in using music only ...

          Originally posted by Rabbit View Post
          In my post to the 'burn-in' thread, my 'radical' solution for speaker acclimatisation was to play music through them.
          Thanks - that's clear, playing music at a normal level is all you need to do. It distresses us at the factory when we've all worked hard as a team to produce beautiful speakers to hear of the occasional mishap during needless 'burn-in' which became an avoidable burn-out.

          And yes, I absolutely agree about selecting the unusual. Inherent, intrinsic quality is rarely on the top surface and like diamonds needs digging out.
          Alan A. Shaw
          Designer, owner
          Harbeth Audio UK

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          • compact 7es3 stands

            Can I use the 7es3 on 24 inch stands ? Is this to high ? I like to listen with the tweeter a bit higher than ear level.

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              • Re: compact 7es3 stands

                Originally posted by mikeyaya View Post
                Can I use the 7es3 on 24 inch stands ? Is this to high ? I like to listen with the tweeter a bit higher than ear level.
                I had mine on 24" Targets and the difference when i placed them on 18" Skylans was night and day.Read Toneaudio magazines review.He tried them on 24s and found a big improvement when he used 19s. Plus the speakers looked awful on the 24s,the Skylan 4 post has a base that perfectly matches the compact 7s dimensions and the stands can be custom ordered from Skylan so maybe a 20" would be great for you.Noel Nolan of Skylan has Habeths speakers and he knows what he's doing..Great service and affordable.

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                • Re: Harbeth HL Compact 7ES-3 specific

                  Are any C7 users utilizing tube amplification with their speakers?

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                  • Re: Harbeth HL Compact 7ES-3 specific

                    I have used vintage Quad II, EAR 899, Puresound A30 and various Croft including their new hybrid with the 7ES-3. All worked just fine with no problems at all.

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                    • Re: Harbeth HL Compact 7ES-3 specific

                      Regarding tubes and Harbeth speakers; I'm a dealer for Manley Labs and Audio Note and both work just fine on the Harbeth line.

                      John Geisen

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                      • Re: Harbeth HL Compact 7ES-3 specific

                        I had a pair of HL-5 loudspeakers.
                        I were very satisfied with them, but then I heard some friends spoke about how good the Living Voice speakers were. Some months ago I sold the HL-5 speakers and bought myself a pair of Living Voice OBX-R2, and after a while a pair of IBX-R2. They were indeed good speakers. But after some time I did miss my Harbeth HL-5.

                        One week ago I sold my Living Voice speakers and bought myself a pair of Harbeths again. The Norwegian importer did only have the C7ES3 in stock, so I bought a pair of those. You can see a picture of them in my Harbeththread, page 9, here: http://www.harbeth.co.uk/usergroup/showthread.php?t=543

                        I have to say that they are wonderful speakers. I have lived with them now for one week, and I must admit that I love Harbeth speakers!

                        In September they had a big show in Norway. Harbeth had some of the best sound on the show. They played with the C7ES3, and amps from Audiovalve. Here are two pictures from the show:

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                        • Re: Harbeth HL Compact 7ES-3 specific

                          Two more pictures from the show:

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                          • KL International AV Show 2009 [Re: Harbeth HL Compact 7ES-3 specific]

                            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UNehS...layer_embedded

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                            • Re: Harbeth HL Compact 7ES-3 specific

                              I have a pair of P3ES-R sitting atop my computer desk and raised to a height where the tweeters are at my ear level. I am sitting in front of and in between the speakers. The speakers are placed 3 feet apart and toed in pointing to my ears. If I extend my arms and finger tips outward at a 35 degree angle from my body I can touch the speakers - that distance is 34 inches.

                              That near field placement creates a nice sweet spot for me while I sit at my desk.



                              QUESTION: I received an offer to trade up my P3ES-R to the C7ES-3. Would the C7ES3 be okay at this placement 34 inches from my ears?




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                              X-Fi Titanium Fatal1ty Pro (PC card)
                              LFD Zero III amp
                              P3ESR
                              Chord/LFD cables, interconnects

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                              • Re: Harbeth HL Compact 7ES-3 specific

                                Originally posted by Supersnake View Post
                                QUESTION: I received an offer to trade up my P3ES-R to the C7ES-3. Would the C7ES3 be okay at this placement 34 inches from my ears?
                                Of course, they will work perfectly and the sound stage will be huge, but because the C7ES3 are so much bigger, they will dominate your vision. Have you considered this?
                                Alan A. Shaw
                                Designer, owner
                                Harbeth Audio UK

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