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Harbeth Compact 7ES-3 Eucalyptus - the most musical speaker I've owned

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  • Harbeth Compact 7ES-3 Eucalyptus - the most musical speaker I've owned

    After owned several brand Hi-End speaker from Hansen Audio The Prince V2, Kharma CRM3.2FE, Dunlavy SC-5, Nola Viper Reference, Audio Physic Avanti III, Vienna Acoustics Mahler&Grand Mozard, ATC SCM11&19, Totem Model1Sig, Xavian Mia&XN250, Eggleston Isabel, JmLab Electra, Usher Dancer 8571BE, Magnepan MG1.6&3.6, Stirling LS3/5a V2, Genelec 8050a etc my new Harbeth speaker is the most musical.
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    Took you a while to get there but well done.

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    • #3
      Plinius with Harbeth

      Hi Ysuryadi,

      Welcom to the HUG. I've seen your previous setup in the Audiogon.

      The Prince V2 was your last speaker driven by Plinius. With the room space you have, M40.1 would be better and you don't need the subs.

      Have tried plinius with harbeth?

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      • #4
        Not surprised your C7s most musical ....

        Wow what a track record of hyper high end speakers there....but i am not in the least surprised that your C7 is the most musical of them all. With the exception of the Genelec 8050A, i have heard all the rest.

        Some were very awful sounding to the point of being unbearable.

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        • #5
          Nice room

          Nice room size you have there :-o and nice colour balance you have on your pictures :-)

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          • #6
            Not yet Jmohd but I'll try someday because my Plinius sold out before I got C7

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            • #7
              Most 'hi-end' speakers = hi-end price, low-end sound

              Harbeth = musical and wonderful...finally you are into the music...good choice

              In today market, most so called hi-end speakers are hi-end in price, low-end in making music...
              "Bath with Music"

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              • #8
                Yes I agree with u

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                • #9
                  Only 4m wide and 5.5m long

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                  • #10
                    Finally into the music (C7ES3)

                    Originally posted by keithwwk View Post
                    Harbeth = musical and wonderful...finally you are into the music...good choice

                    In today market, most so called hi-end speakers are hi-end in price, low-end in making music...
                    That's true bro.

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                    • #11
                      Harbeth with single mosfet

                      Try McIntosh MC275 mkV but no enough power to drive C7 so upgrade to GamuT M250 mk3 with single mosfet technology the performance better than tube and bipolar amp
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                      • #12
                        Cables as coils?

                        Hi ysuryadi.

                        In the fourth picture I see a yellow cable behind the amp in 5 or 6 rounds. Making rounds in a signal cable (if it is a signal cable) may cause problems -I think- at some frequencies (acts like a coil?). Maybe someone who knows better can give some advice...

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                        • #13
                          Cable in coil loops

                          Yes I'll cut the wire so not round like a coil
                          Originally posted by Takis View Post
                          Hi ysuryadi.

                          In the fourth picture I see a yellow cable behind the amp in 5 or 6 rounds. Making rounds in a signal cable (if it is a signal cable) may cause problems -I think- at some frequencies (acts like a coil?). Maybe someone who knows better can give some advice...
                          {Moderator's comment: if you do the maths you will see that inductance is related to the number of loops of a coil. Two or three loops will have zero inductance. You would need a few hundred turns to measure any magnetic effect. I wouldn't worry about this at all. Studios often have microphones connected via huge drums of cable.}

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                          • #14
                            Another myth busted about cables and coils

                            .....{Moderator's comment: if you do the maths you will see that inductance is related to the number of loops of a coil. Two or three loops will have zero inductance. You would need a few hundred turns to measure any magnetic effect. I wouldn't worry about this at all. Studios often have microphones connected via huge drums of cable.}
                            Thanks for clearing another myth. I have read in many places about interconnects shouldn't touch each other and speaker wires shouldn't coil but I couldn't tell any difference in the sound quality. Yet, I am still guilty of going thru extra effort to separate all cables to the extend of hanging them just to be "audiophilely" (is there such word?) correct.

                            But it is still a good practice to keep the wires away from power source.

                            ST

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                            • #15
                              Inductance of coil

                              A coil of wire in the air away from anything ferromagnetic is called a solenoid. Very simple maths will show you the inductance. For example here.

                              We put some numbers into the calculator based on our guess of the yellow wire coil. The result was a few microhenries. Even our test meter is not sensitive enough to accurately measure such a tiny inductance. That inductance may be a worry to the designer of a mobile radio working at hundreds of MHz. But it is not a relevant worry at audio frequencies. The amplifier's output will have more inductance.

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