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Harbeth Monitor 30 domestic specific

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  • Re: I love harbeth M30!

    Hi Zhangyu.H welcome.... glad to know you're enjoying your Harbeth M30. If you would like to view other owners around the world setup... have a look at this link... Photos of your beloved Harbeth Speakers & Setup

    Cheers...

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    • Re: I love harbeth M30!

      Originally posted by zhangyu.H View Post
      Gan CK
      Thank you for your warm,detailed instructions for me,It's useful for a "freshman" here.I will try it.
      Thanks again.

      You are welcome. Feel free to raise any issues you may have in posting the pic. Oh & post your setup pic in the link provided by Soundbyte.

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      • Re: I love harbeth M30!

        Originally posted by Soundbyte View Post
        Hi Zhangyu.H welcome.... glad to know you're enjoying your Harbeth M30. If you would like to view other owners around the world setup... have a look at this link... Photos of your beloved Harbeth Speakers & Setup

        Cheers...
        Thank you for your link,I will try it.

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        • Re: I love harbeth M30!

          Hi Gan CK & Soundbyte,
          I have put some pics of my setup,thank you for your helping,and beg your advice.
          sincerely Zhangyu

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          • Re: I love harbeth M30!

            Hi zhangyu.H,
            Welcome and looking forward to see your lovely setup...
            "Bath with Music"

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            • Re: I love harbeth M30!

              Hi,friends,I've put up some pics of my system at http://www.harbeth.co.uk/usergroup/s...=3388#post3388, hope you can give me some advice,thank you.
              zhangyu

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              • Issue for Alan Shaw-Blemished Finnish on my Montor 30's

                Hi Alan

                I am in the USA and have my Monitor 30's for almost 4 years. They were purchased as a dealer demo from a harbeth dealer. They are in maple, which is not even imported anymore into the USA.

                They are beginning to develop cracks or blemishes in the finnish which look like raised lines in parallel-sort of like what a small scar woudl look like on your arm.

                Needless to say they do not effect the acoustics of the speakers, but they certainly would adverselt effect resale value, should I ever went to sell them.

                I have never had this with any other pair of speakers!

                Since they are still under warrantee, is this type of thing covered and if so, what are my options?

                I must say that I am not happy about this.

                Looking forward to hearing what can be done.

                Thanks in Advance.

                Jay

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                • Radial 2 Driver in 30the Anniversary M30?

                  Hello, Alan

                  I was wondering if the 30th Anniversary Edition of the Monitor 30 incorporates the new Radial 2 driver?

                  Look forward to hearing from you.

                  Bob LaBarca
                  State College, PA
                  USA

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                  • Re: Radial 2 Driver in 30the Anniversary M30?

                    No. The M30 does not use the RADIAL2 woofer. The Compact 7ES3 and the Monitor 40.1 use the RADIAL2 woofer. The M40.1 uses it in a special version as a midrange driver.
                    Harbeth PR,
                    Harbeth UK

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                    • Re: Radial 2 Driver in 30the Anniversary M30?

                      huh, what about the SHL5 ???

                      Originally posted by harbethpr View Post
                      No. The M30 does not use the RADIAL2 woofer. The Compact 7ES3 and the Monitor 40.1 use the RADIAL2 woofer. The M40.1 uses it in a special version as a midrange driver.

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                      • Re: Radial 2 Driver in 30the Anniversary M30?

                        The SHL5 does not use the RADIAL2 driver.
                        Alan A. Shaw
                        Designer, owner
                        Harbeth Audio UK

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                        • Re: Radial 2 Driver in 30the Anniversary M30?

                          What is the difference between Radial 1 and 2 ?
                          the speaker sounds wery simmilar except the cleaner hights and the bigger bass in case of SHL5 vs. C7? Altough the C7 has better soundstage!


                          Originally posted by A.S. View Post
                          The SHL5 does not use the RADIAL2 driver.

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                          • Re: Radial 2 Driver in 30the Anniversary M30?

                            The RADIAL2 woofer has a different surround. Humble though it may look, the surround is an extremely critical chemical-mechanical component. Too much damping, and the sound is lifeless: too little damping and the round is hard. But, the optimum surround thickness and hence mass will (obviously) effect sensitivity. One reason that for some years speakers have been boasting seemingly ever-increasing sensitivity is because the manufactures have been thinning-down and removing damping from their surrounds to save weight hence increase sensitivity.

                            This is exactly analogous to stripping a car bare to reduce weight and increase acceleration and top speed. But who would want to bump along with such a hard ride?
                            Alan A. Shaw
                            Designer, owner
                            Harbeth Audio UK

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                            • M30 grilles fit well.

                              Hi guys:

                              Quick question. I just got a pair of M30. Purchased them in the second hand market. They are in pristine condition. My only observation is that the grilles don't have the Harbeth logo. They fit perfectly. They were both in the US. Should I worried about this?

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                              • Grille removal on Monitor 30

                                Thanks for the replies to my last post, folks.

                                I have another question: how does one remove the grill from a M30 without destroying something? I've stopped trying. Alan, I know that you've designed an acoustically transparent grill that you would prefer to see left in place; but you've also built a beautifully veneered front baffle with that nicely radiused woofer mounting. If you really don't want us messing back there, why don't you affix the grills permanently and save yourself and the consumer some money by doing away with the wood veneer up front?

                                Thanks, looking forward to your reply

                                Bob LaBarca
                                State College, PA
                                USA

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