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  • Harbeth M 40.1 & Mcintosh MA 7000 Truly Heaven!!

    Hi All,

    Just become an owner M40.1 week ago, finally I found what I looking for and want to share this moment and thank you to all fantastic work of Harbeth team.

    My system consist:

    - Harbeth M 40.1
    - Mcintosh MA 7000
    - Esoteric X 05 SACD/CD player
    - VPI scoutmaster II

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    • Re: "Finally found what I was looking for ..."

      Hi Redbasil,

      "finally I found what I looking for", you are definitely right. That's how I felt...the M40.1 is a wonderful speaker.

      Please post some pictures of your beautiful set-up and congratulation!!

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      • Congratulations!

        Hi Redbasil,

        Congratulations & welcome to the Harbeth Club.

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        • Hi Jmohd,

          Greeting from Thailand, and thank you for replied,

          I'm just a music lover no particular set up as most audiophile does. My system is simply set up, would love to share picture too...but only via e-mail.

          Best Regards,
          Redbasil

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          • Congratulations,if you can post a photo!
            Luca

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            • System set up

              Hi All,

              it's simple set up for my system, my listening room size is 3.5 x 6 M, listening position is 3.5 M from speaker. this set up reproduce very clean and deep bass and unbelievable image and sound stage. in some record you can feel like listening live performance.

              Best regards,

              Redbasil
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              • 40.1, my favourite speaker

                Hi Redbasil
                Very nice looking system, I am sure it is sounding wonderful.
                The 40.1 are my favorite Harbeth speaker.

                Cheers Jason.
                Thanks Jason.

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                • Getting the best out of the M40.1 - room positioning

                  I have recently installed my 40.1. I thought I'd share a few thoughts on getting the best out of these (all opinions are entirely my own and from someone who knows little/nothing about the technicalities).

                  When I got these in to my room and fired them up I just thought they sounded terrible: horribly boomy and bloated with a recessed midrange. I simply couldn't believe it was the speakers or my equipment's fault. I am using Pass Labs, Herron Audio, PS Audio and SME.

                  Anyway, to cut a long story short, it was all down to the positioning in the room. Even subtle changes can make a massive difference. I eventually ended up positioning them according to the "Cardas method". I tried the "Get better sound" method and also the method recommended by "RealTraps" with frustrating results.

                  Now that they are positioned correctly they sound fabulous. I have a slightly annoying room (standing wave resonance) node- but there isn't much I can do about it.

                  I can confirm that these speakers can work well in a small room (18ft x 12ft), but you really need a dedicated room or, a very, very understanding wife and children who are angels.
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                  • Room treatment - very important

                    Hi teddyboy,

                    Gongrats on you new Harbeth and nice looking room. BTW, I'm also using M40.1 and my room is smaller than yours. IMO, room treatment is very important among other things. Room treatment does affect the sound.

                    Enjoy..

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                    • Harbeth tonality across the range ....

                      Ted your Harbeth monitor 40.1 look very impressive set up in your music room.

                      Speaker placement is very important for the best sonic results in any room, I have found that with speakers that move a lot of air pressure in a room this is even more important.

                      Not every one is lucky enough to have a dedicated music room that we can acoustically treat with acoustic traps and reflection panels, the WAF comes into play that will usually put a end to this Idea!!

                      I have two rooms set up at Parmenter Sound for my Harbeth demonstrations, one treated Acoustically and one left as a normal living room environment. This helps my clients greatly to hear a normal music playback listening room and then experience a dedicated professionally treated music room with Acoustic Science Corporation & RealTraps acoustic treatments.

                      Both systems I think sound wonderful with in there own room settings, this is a result from the excellent voicing of the Harbeth loudspeakers and the work that Alan and the Harbeth team have put into the crossover design & speaker driver matching of each model.

                      I am saying these very positive comments about the Harbeth speakers not from being biased as the Harbeth NZ distributor but from a passionate music lover point of view, Tone is just right with the Harbeth speakers across the entire range.
                      Thanks Jason.

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                      • Can't recommend the M40.1 highly enough ....

                        I have just installed my new Harbeth monitor 40.1 this morning, they have been playing now for 10 hours non stop.

                        First impression coming from listening to the Harbeth Monitor 30 which is a wonderful speaker in it own right, the Monitor 40.1 from the first note is just bigger in scale with added bass weight & dimension.

                        Music just flows from the Monitor 40.1 with a sense of ease with the Air Tight ATM 2 amplifier and Leben RS 100U preamplifier, the ATM-2 has 80 watts a channel output power on tap.

                        Bass is very well controlled with excellent depth and texture with Double bass and Piano, voices are very natural, all round I can not recommend the Monitor 40.1 speakers highly enough.
                        Thanks Jason.

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                        • No Tiger Ebony for Turkey

                          good news: my M40.1 will have been shipped in November 2011,
                          bad news: there is no tiger-ebony veneer coming to Turkey.

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                          • M40.1 room size OK?

                            Hi guys,

                            Im wondering what room size you have placed your M40.1 in ? any issues with boominess, etc ?
                            Im using SHL5 now for many years & love it. Just thinking of adding an M40.1 into my harbeth family.
                            My room is 16 feet x 19 feet x 9 feet ceiling.
                            Thanks

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                            • Removed now can't refit grille

                              HELP!

                              i use my 40.1 without the grilles. yesterday i tried to put the grilles on just to get an alternative look in my room. the problem: i donīt know why but one of the grilles doesīt fit in the frame! itīs just a little "larger" on one corner than the groove where it should fit in.
                              what would you do?

                              thanks,
                              delgesu
                              Harbeth M40.1-Naim NAC52-Supercap-NAP 135-CDS2-XPS

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                              • Swap around?

                                Maybe you have swopped left with right grille ? Try swopping them round.

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