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"This Harbeth User Group (HUG) is the Manufacturer's own managed forum dedicated to natural sound, realisable by controlling the confounding variables between tthe microphone and the listeners' ears.

For example, the design of and interaction between the hifi amplifier and its speaker load can and potentially will alter the sound balance of what you hear. To reproduce the sounds captured by the recording microphones, as Harbeth speakers are designed to do, you would naturally select system components (sources, electronics, cables and so on) that do not color the sound before it reaches the speakers.

Identifying components for their system neutrality should, logically, start with the interpretation and analysis of their technical, objective performance, as any and every deviation from a measurably flat frequency response at any point along the serial chain from microphone to ear is very likely to cause the total system to have an audible sonic personality. That includes the contribution of the listening room itself.

HUG specialises in making complex technical matters simple to understand, aiding the identification of audio components likely to maintain a faithful relationship between the recorded sound and the sound you hear. With our heritage of natural sound, HUG cannot be really be expected to guide in the selection, approval, endorsement or even discussion of equipment that is intend to introduce a significantly personalised sound to the audio signal chain. For that you should do your own research and above all, make the effort to visit an Authorised Dealer and listen to your music at your loudness on your loudspeakers through the various electronics offered there. There is no on-line substitute for that time investment in a dealer's showroom.

If you desire to intentionally tune your system sound to your personal taste, please consider carefully how much you should rely upon the subjective opinions of strangers. Their hearing acuity and taste will be different to yours, as will be their motives and budget, their listening distance, listening loudness and listening room treatment, not necessarily leading to appropriate equipment selection and listening satisfaction for you.

Alternatively, if faithfully reproducing the sound intended by the composer, score, conductor and musicians over your speakers is your audio dream, then understanding something of the issues likely to fulfill that objective is what this forum has been helping with since 2006. Welcome!"

Jan. 2018
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Filling stands for P3ESR

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  • Filling stands for P3ESR


    I'm currently enjoying my P3 speakers. They are placed on some 60cm steel column stands with spikes, by Foundation stands. they are 2m apart, placed around 30cm from the rear wall, on a wooden floor in a room of 4x4m.

    The stands are currently filled with a dark sand, I think it's ground granite or something similar. I read that Harbeths like an unfilled stand / open stand and was considering pouring the filler out through the hole in the top of the stand, leaving them partially or fully empty.

    Does anyone have any experience here? I read some say half full, others completely empty. I could just try it, but it will make a mess, especially if I want to pour it back in if it's not right!

    Hope you can help.

    {Moderator's comment: We truly do not believe that an empty, potentially ringy metal stand can be to any sonic benefit, whatever you may have read. Strongly suggest that you leave well alone and just enjoy the music.}

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    Stand filling ....

    I would recommend filling it just enough so the pillars won't ring anymore. That should be sufficient. Filling it completely will give you a less lively sound.