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Feb. 2018
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New Harbeth P3ESR

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  • P3 is beautiful in any veneer

    The Rosewood finish looks stunning, I say so as a proud owner. I think the Cherry finish looks very nice too, though. It's a tough choice!

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    • Well then ... my jaw dropped at C7ES2

      Got the C7es2 today, had a little play in my den, I have Proac D15 at the moment which I think are fantastic speakers, so played a lot of my fav tunes for a few hours and loved every minute of it....flicked through somes songs....then replaced them with the 7's . Jaw dropped. Didn't flick through any songs, they all played from beginning to end

      Originally posted by scottc1968 View Post
      I went down and measured, they are actually 2.2 metres apart so not much in it. Thanks for all of your comments, I pick up some C7ES2 on Sunday....now need to get some cheapish stands.........any ideas?

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      • P3ESR - vocals in the room not next door

        I guess you are particularly appreciating the mid-band. Where the ProAc's dip, the Harbeth speakers are flat and this has the effect of placing the vocals right there in the room with you instead of being next door !!!

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        • My P3ESR's have arrived-Pics inside

          I received my pair 2 weeks back.

          I will be updating impressions shortly.

          For now enjoy the pictures.
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          • Beautiful P3ESR pix!

            Beautiful!

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            • Stands?

              What kind of stands are those? They look great.

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              • Soundstyle xs 122

                I'am glad you liked the stands,they are the Soundstyle XS 122's

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                • Some More Pics of P3ESR



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                  • P3ESR user report ...

                    I listen to them is with my eyes closed,but for the first time I'am enjoying listening to the music rather then analyzing it.

                    The mini monitors themselves bring out this accurate image of every instrument and voice,that every time something move you can tell that it is the mixing that altered the placement.

                    I have been listening mainly to vocal jazz,and mind you Norah Jones's voice just floats out of the rest,I cannot believe the reality aspect of the sound.

                    I had heard about the awesome mids of these {BBC Licensed Design} but this is ridiculous what I'am hearing.

                    The soundtstage is not very huge but enough to make it appear natural.

                    The ultra low freq suffer a bit but then,these speakers were never meant to play house music and there is no problem in reproducing the Cello to the right timbre.

                    The highs are crisp and extremely detailed,didn't expect that with the Grille on.

                    There is no sibilance whatsoever with what I have heard so far.

                    The speakers do play loud at about 10 pm on the Leben.I couldn't ask for more from these beauties at this stage,Shaw delivered as promised.

                    {Moderator's comment: no, these have no connection with BBC design. They are entirely Harbeth UK design}

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                    • Laptop source?

                      Very nice! Is the laptop the principal source? What DAC and amplification are you using?

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                      • Leben?

                        I think I see a LEBEN amp behind the laptop!

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                        • Harbeth P3ESR and Leben - both small but perfectly formed

                          Originally posted by Takis View Post
                          I think I see a LEBEN amp behind the laptop!
                          Yes, that is a Leben hiding in the corner. I use a Leben pre/power with my Harbeth P3ESR and they are both miniature items of superb quality. They're both a bit like expertly tended bonsai treesin that way!

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                          • Beautiful cabinet workmanship

                            Harbeths may be simple rectangular boxes, but you've got to hand it to their cabinet makers - the workmanship is just beautiful.

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                            • My laptop sources

                              Originally posted by Labarum View Post
                              Very nice! Is the laptop the principal source? What DAC and amplification are you using?
                              Coming from a headphone background,I'am guilty of having Foobar 2000 as my primary source.We somehow stick to laptops when it comes to sources.I've even put my CD player for sale. I know it is not ideal.
                              But the flexibility makes it worth.

                              The Laptop runs into audio-gd Digital Interface which is a USB to SPDIF Converter. That then runs into audio-gd DAC-19 DSP wwith the version 3 software upgrade on the DSP.

                              Which is then connected to ,yes you are right the Leben CS-300X which I purchased NOS not long back.

                              Thanks for appreciating my setup.

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                              • More pictures

                                Some more Pictures



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