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  • #76
    Dampiong + diffusers

    ...have to "reply" to my own post No.26 where I say that an overdamped room is not likely to happen.

    Well, my learning curve going further and further. Have to say that I now did experience exactly that: an over damped room. Music somehow did not really let loose. It was held back.

    Therefore my plans were changed: in addition to absorption I will add some diffusers.

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    • #77
      The balance between bass damping and HF sparkle

      Originally posted by thurston View Post
      ...have to "reply" to my own post No.26 where I say that an overdamped room is not likely to happen.

      Well, my learning curve going further and further. Have to say that I now did experience exactly that: an over damped room. Music somehow did not really let loose. It was held back.

      Therefore my plans were changed: in addition to absorption I will add some diffusers.
      Been there. Too much damping kills the sparkle but there will be control in your music. Separation between instruments and you can hear micro details. I started the room with too much damping and then added diffusers and reflectors until I get the balance for a good sound. A lot of damping gives you clean bass. A liitle reflectors over the damping keep the HF alive. It will take months to get it right.

      ST

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      • #78
        Easy to over-damp

        Same here, been there 17yrs ago when I experiencing simple room treatment.

        I tried old twin mattresses to cover corners and 1st reflection point side walls with too much damping in my old room and result was overkill (Once enter to the room the sudden reduce in noise was very obvious).

        Music became lifeless, can turn vol real loud but fatigue after some time.
        "Bath with Music"

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        • #79
          Overdamped room + (over damped) studio recordings = uniteresting

          The thing that surprised me that adding absorption made the listening experience better and better.

          But adding just a LITTLE too much killed everything. Liked it at first, but listening the whole evening a feeling grew that it missed the fun it used to have.

          Live recordings (with real ambience) were better. Studio recording sound a little dull, uninteresting.

          Well mostly one listens to studio recordings!

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