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Feb. 2018
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From C7es3 to shl5+

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  • From C7es3 to shl5+

    So, it was time to upgrade my c7's ..

    I listened to various speakers (almost bought a dynaudio c1 signature) untill last week when I brought home a shl5+ pair for a demo (from the local dealer)
    placed them on diy wooden open frame stands (45cm height) , 80cm from back wall and 120cm from side ones

    and
    all I needed was few hours to decide ...

    these are truly remarkable speakers
    much better than c7es3 in every aspect (to my ears, in my room with my equipment) ...

    my shl5+ also has the new protective grill tweeter (as in the anniversary model) and I quess this would be an improvement ...

    driving them with hegel h160 @ asr mini basis exclusive @ avid diva ii / jelco 750d / denon 103r

    say cheese
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  • #2
    Happy days,but the sad thing is,your c7 realy want to live with me now

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    • #3
      C7's are marvelous speakers, and I could still be happy with them,

      but when I brought the 5+'s home and listened to them I had no choice ...

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      • #4
        Enjoy your new SHL5plus speakers! May I ask which veneer you chose?

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        • #5
          Thanks !!
          I chose Eucalyptus.

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          • #6
            I also just moved from the C7ES3 to the SHL5+. They are currently sitting on the boxes they came in as I have no speaker stands. Will solve that today. Even so, I am extremely happy with the purchase! They sound very much like the C7ES3 in my opinion, but with more of everything. Bigger sound, deeper bass, more clarity. If I had never heard them, I would have been happy with the C7ES3 indefinitely, so I think the lesson is to stop visiting shops, and never listen to the 40.2. iMac is my main source, and I've picked up a lovely used Yamah A-S801 which has all the inputs I'll ever need.

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