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  • Re: Harbeth SHL5 specific

    Hi to everybody,
    My room has exactly the same dimensions with Keith's room. Yes I have some boom occasionally, depending on music played. I also have to face and treat the problem. My positioning of the SHL5s is of course along the narrow dimension at 1m. from back wall, 55 cm. from side walls, about 10o toed-in, listening spot at about 2,5-3m. away. Speaker clearance from woofer to woofer is about 2.5m. Stands, with very good isolation from both the hardfloor and from the speakers as well, are about 42 cm tall custom made from solid wood. Any suggestions to tame the bass?
    Thanks and cheers from Athens,
    Thanos

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    • Re: Harbeth SHL5 specific

      Hi Thanos,
      I will getting a SHL5 soon..your post is really important to me now..
      My current old C7 was place along the short wall..I did faced some bass problems and caused overal sound all blurr (overal stil great sound) and bass lack punch.. Now, I placed it along the long wall, the overal sound is pretty impressive including the bass, very punchy and big scale. Of cos, I plan to place my SHL5 along the long wall too...You may try it now...and pls tell me if it work for you...
      "Bath with Music"

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      • Re: Harbeth SHL5 specific

        Originally posted by keithwwk
        Hi Thanos,
        I will getting a SHL5 soon..your post is really important to me now..
        My current old C7 was place along the short wall..I did faced some bass problems and caused overal sound all blurr (overal stil great sound) and bass lack punch.. Now, I placed it along the long wall, the overal sound is pretty impressive including the bass, very punchy and big scale. Of cos, I plan to place my SHL5 along the long wall too...You may try it now...and pls tell me if it work for you...
        Keithwwk... don't worry too much... just look at my picture below.


        Thanos is right it only happens to some music not all... so now I am look for a nice thick carpet and some material to take care of corners....

        Cheers

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        • Re: Harbeth SHL5 specific

          Hi Soundbyte,
          Thank you for the picture..
          Is your new SHL5 color is cherry? it look very beautiful
          "Bath with Music"

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          • Re: Harbeth SHL5 specific

            Originally posted by Soundbyte
            Keithwwk... don't worry too much... just look at my picture below.


            Thanos is right it only happens to some music not all... so now I am look for a nice thick carpet and some material to take care of corners....

            Cheers
            Hi bro, wow nice pic of your new SHL-5.....i reckon a rug placed in the middle of your living room should improve things. Btw, i really like the addition of 30th anniversary sticker with Alan Shaw's signature on the rear...looking forward to visiting you soon...the SHL-5 is a superb spk capable of giving you lashings & lashings of pure musical enjoyment!

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            • Re: Harbeth SHL5 specific

              Originally posted by Gan CK
              Hi bro, wow nice pic of your new SHL-5.....i reckon a rug placed in the middle of your living room should improve things. Btw, i really like the addition of 30th anniversary sticker with Alan Shaw's signature on the rear...looking forward to visiting you soon...the SHL-5 is a superb spk capable of giving you lashings & lashings of pure musical enjoyment!
              Thanks... I waiting for the rest of my stuff... my turntable and rack... I will let you know once it is all here and break-in.

              Cheers.

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              • Re: Harbeth SHL5 specific

                I don't believe it.... I just played "Metallica - The Black Album" on my Harbeth Super HL-5 OFC.... boy oh boy... love the sonics.... fantastic sound. Harbeth SHL-5 timing is just spot on... I would strongly disagree with anyone who say Harbeth can't play rock!

                My Setup...
                • Harbeth SHL-5 OFC 30th Anniversary
                • Kimber 8TC Speaker Cables
                • Lavardin IS Ref Integrated 35 Watts
                • Audience AU24 Interconnects
                • JLTi Modified Sony DVP-N90 SACD/DVD/CD Player



                It is so musical... I can play the whole day!

                Thanks Alan for a fantastic speaker....

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                • Re: Harbeth SHL5 specific

                  Soundbyte makes a great point. I agree that Harbeths do a fantastic job at rock music and there seems to be an incorrect notion among some folks that they don't. A large percentage of my listening lately are concert dvds and I love what my C7es2 can do with them.

                  Soundbyte, if you like Metallica, go treat yourself to Megadeth's United Abominations, it's then that you'll get a taste of some serious rock/metal. Or Megadeth live in Buenos Aires (dvd) is also fantastic.

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                  • Re: Harbeth SHL5 specific

                    For me, rock 'n' roll through the SHL5's can be heaven. Particularly a recording with a wide dynamic range, one well-mastered.

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                    • Re: Harbeth SHL5 specific

                      Dear Alan and All,

                      Finally I got my SHL5 30th OFC. No boom in my room. Fresh out from box..sound fantastic!

                      I said my old C7 sound wonderful. Now I wanna say my SHL5 sound godlike!

                      I got my dream sound from SHL5. I will keep my C7 and SHL5 for my life.

                      I am very proud as a Harbethian.
                      "Bath with Music"

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                      • Re: Harbeth SHL5 specific

                        Originally posted by keithwwk
                        Dear Alan and All,

                        Finally I got my SHL5 30th OFC. No boom in my room. Fresh out from box..sound fantastic!

                        I said my old C7 sound wonderful. Now I wanna say my SHL5 sound godlike!

                        I got my dream sound from SHL5. I will keep my C7 and SHL5 for my life.

                        I am very proud as a Harbethian.

                        Welcome back bro & congrats on your latest purchase of the SHL-5. It will be the most rewarding investment in a high fidelity loudspeaker you ever made. However, be prepared, you might have plenty of sleep to catch up with once they get under your skin. They are very very addictive. So, you've been warned!

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                        • SHL5 with 12-15W amp?

                          Hello everybody, i need an answer on a critical (for me) question. Has anybody driven the sHL5 with a 12-15wpc amp? Can they be driven with a low watt amp?

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                          • SHL5 Leben CS-300X or 300B

                            Originally posted by Myron
                            Hello everybody, i need an answer on a critical (for me) question. Has anybody driven the sHL5 with a 12-15wpc amp? Can they be driven with a low watt amp?
                            Hi Myron, i've heard the old HL-5 driven to very good effect by a 7wpc 300B tube amp, so i reckon that a 12-15wpc amp should have no problem driving SHL-5. The SHL-5s are very amp friendly. And, as Jeff Day from 6 moons has mentioned, the SHL-5 can be driven to musically satisfying levels with a Leben CS-300X amp outputting 15wpc.

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                            • Anyone using Marantz PM11S1 with SHL5?

                              Hi all,

                              Any one here using Marantz with Harbeth? I very like to know how Marantz PM11S1 sound with Harbeth..

                              Thx..
                              "Bath with Music"

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                              • Re: Anyone using Marantz PM11S1 with SHL5?

                                Originally posted by keithwwk
                                Hi all, Any one here using Marantz with Harbeth? I very like to know how Marantz PM11S1 sound with Harbeth.Thx..
                                I used a Marantz PM17 for about 6 years with my HL5LE and liked it very much. I replaced it some years ago by a Marantz PM14MKII KI. I'm not sure if the PM14 was much better. It probaly had a better resulution in the deep bass area. Last year I got some M40s and used them together with the PM14 - fine. There is nothing wrong with any Marantz and they have a very long term stability. They use excellent parts especially for capacitors and volume regulators. I like the KI series but I'm not sure if there is one for the PM11.

                                But there is another recommendation I have. 3 month ago I replaced the PM14 by a Lyngdorf TDAI 2200 with RoomPerfect because of a massive room problem. The effect of DSP/roomperfect is huge and I never want to miss it anymore. I'm not sure if it matters that mich what kind of amplifier you use with your SHL5. I'm sure that if you spend some money the differences will be very small. But any DSP solution is another story and the TDAI 2200 with RoomPerfect is a milestone. If you have a chance then please give it a try.

                                Thomas

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