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  • Re: Harbeth SHL5 specific

    Hi keithwwk,

    I got to know from another thread here that the cherry finish alongside with the eucalyptus are both standard domestic finishes. That was the reason I raised up the issue of lack of standard finishes option for consumers. I have spoken to the local dealer Sam and was informed that he no longer brings in the eucalyptus and only the cherry, hence my post here to clarify on the situation.

    http://www.harbeth.co.uk/usergroup/showthread.php?t=412

    Re: Speaker Finishes

    The current situation regarding veneer availability at June 2008 ...

    Standard domestic finishes:

    Cherry
    Eucalyptus

    Standard professional finish:

    Texture grey - M20. M30 M40.1 only

    Specials - not always available, tend to be for limited editions

    Rosenut
    Tiger Ebony

    Very special:

    Santos rosewood
    __________________
    Alan A. Shaw
    Designer, owner
    Harbeth Audio UK

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    • SHL5 in eucalyptus anyone?

      I would appreciate if anybody who owns the SHL-5 in eucalpytus finish would be kind enough to post a picture of the speakers here for me to look at it. Thanks in advance.

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      • Re: Harbeth SHL5 specific

        I can find C7 only:

        "Bath with Music"

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        • Picture of SHL5 in eucalyptus veneer

          Oh..here is SHL5

          "Bath with Music"

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          • Picture of SHL5 in eucalyptus veneer

            Keithwwk, thanks for posting the pictures.

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            • SHL5 eucalyptus pictures ...

              C7-ES2 in Eucalyptus attached.
              Attached Files

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              • SHL5 eucalyptus pictures ...

                Thanks for uploading the picture Will. Speakers look great in eucalyptus. Unfortunately my local dealer does not bring in any speakers in eucalyptus finish and all we have are cherry and tiger ebony.

                Cheers.

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                • Harbeth SHL5 dem@KJ West One

                  Visited KJ West one to hear a pair of Harbeth SHL5 speakers, and by some considerable distance, it was (despite some minor reservations) the best audition I've ever attended.

                  The equipment.

                  CD player was an Audio Research DC8

                  Playing through a Krell S-300i integrated

                  Which are easily bettered by my Arcam/Avondale equipment!

                  The Krell integrated was noisy in operation, it seemed to use the same numeric volume control as my Arcam pre, but with an audible click with every change and it hissed through the speakers worse than a Naim pre, plus there was a very noticeable mechanical hum

                  The CD player was better, although the display was nasty and being a top loader it was seriously fiddly to use and eventually you are going to drop a CD edge first onto the exposed laser!

                  The overwhelming star of the show was the Harbeth SHL5s!

                  Stunningly well made, I hope my pictures do them justice!



                  http://i246.photobucket.com/albums/g...3/IMG_0463.jpg

                  http://i246.photobucket.com/albums/g...3/IMG_0464.jpg

                  http://i246.photobucket.com/albums/g...3/IMG_0465.jpg

                  http://i246.photobucket.com/albums/g...3/IMG_0466.jpg

                  http://i246.photobucket.com/albums/g...3/IMG_0467.jpg

                  http://i246.photobucket.com/albums/g...3/IMG_0468.jpg


                  What do they sound like, do I hear you ask?

                  Well, music, it’s as simple as that. They sound more like live music than ANY other speaker I’ve EVER heard.

                  Nice to see London again after so many years, pity its been well and truly buggered by “traffic calming”

                  St Pauls is still looking good.

                  All in all, twas a good day!

                  PS,

                  Keith,

                  I remembered to take the Karajan Sibelius, Tapiola was superb!

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                  • SHL5 veneers and sunlight

                    Hi Stephen,
                    Glad you enjoy the SHL5. Many thnaks for the lovely pictures. New collection for my Harbeth album.

                    PS: The Harbeth should avoid direct sunlight as showed in your 1st picture.
                    "Bath with Music"

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                    • SHL5 veneers and sunlight

                      Sun is pretty bright in cold and wet Britain, pretty surprising.

                      Anyway, are those SHL-5's in cherry or rosenut? The grain lines seem to be pretty obvious.

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                      • Re: Harbeth SHL5 specific

                        I guess that is cherry. Rosenut is red color.
                        Cherry grain will be more obvious over time..
                        "Bath with Music"

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                        • Losing sleep over new SHL5s

                          They are Cherry veneered; they are also a peach!

                          Even in a small room, on rubbish stands and too close to the side walls, they are wonderful!

                          Example, I was shattered, I'd been up since 7am, when I got back home at about 6:30pm, so tired I bought myself Macdonald?s instead of cooking!

                          After a brief doze, I quickly set them up and listened until 4am!

                          They are that good.

                          I spent most of Sunday listening and they are indeed very easy to listen to for long periods.

                          Time to dig out the Wagner!

                          Only one real criticism, well not really a criticism, more of an observation, they are extremely revealing of poor recordings and worn records.

                          I have a treasured Brahms 1st Symphony by Josef Krips with the Vienna Philharmonic which sounded ok on my Royds. However on the Harbeths it is very obvious this LP has had all the high frequencies worn off it over the years and so far I've not been able to find it on CD.

                          Thanks Keith & Ryder, I do keep the curtains closed when it's that sunny.

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                          • Losing sleep over new SHL5s

                            Originally posted by Stephen PG View Post
                            They are Cherry veneered; they are also a peach!

                            Even in a small room, on rubbish stands and too close to the side walls, they are wonderful!

                            Example, I was shattered, I'd been up since 7am, when I got back home at about 6:30pm, so tired I bought myself Macdonald?s instead of cooking!

                            After a brief doze, I quickly set them up and listened until 4am!

                            They are that good.

                            I spent most of Sunday listening and they are indeed very easy to listen to for long periods.

                            Time to dig out the Wagner!

                            Only one real criticism, well not really a criticism, more of an observation, they are extremely revealing of poor recordings and worn records.

                            I have a treasured Brahms 1st Symphony by Josef Krips with the Vienna Philharmonic which sounded ok on my Royds. However on the Harbeths it is very obvious this LP has had all the high frequencies worn off it over the years and so far I've not been able to find it on CD.

                            Thanks Keith & Ryder, I do keep the curtains closed when it's that sunny.
                            Congrats on your new SHL-5s. God knows how much sleep i lost while listening to the SHL-5s during the initial months after buying it, so i can totally relate to what's happening to you right now. They make you want to skip meals, rush home after work...etc. And yes you are absolutely correct to say that they are extremely revealing of poor recordings despite sounding smooth & easy on the ears. Expect to lose more sleep in the months to come.

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                            • Re: Losing sleep over new SHL5s

                              Originally posted by Gan CK View Post
                              God knows how much sleep i lost while listening to the SHL-5s during the initial months after buying it, They make you want to skip meals, rush home after work...etc. Expect to lose more sleep in the months to come.
                              Well, I don't want to imagine that now since I'm losing sleep already thinking about the Harbeth sound I've experienced at the showroom. By the way Gan CK, what were your previous speakers prior to purchasing the SHL-5? I am using a PMC LB1 Signature, a pretty large bookshelf but it just got blown away by both Compact 7ES-3 and SHL-5.

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                              • RADIAL woofer

                                I'm surprised that you're surprised that a Harbeth speaker with a Harbeth-UK made RADIAL woofer beats a conventional speaker with an anonymous mass-produced woofer!
                                Harbeth PR,
                                Harbeth UK

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