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  • Re: Harbeth SHL5 specific

    Hi,

    I currently have a pair of P3s which are great - but I am considering upgrading. I was wondering if a naim nait 5i would drive a pair of HL5s circa 1994?

    Cheers

    Andy

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    • Re: Harbeth SHL5 specific

      Three weeks and the SHL5s just keep on surprising (and scaring) me!

      Krzysztof Penderecki

      Tren (Threnody), "To the Victims of Hiroshima"

      Fluorescences

      Kosmogonia

      De Natura Sonoris, No. 2

      Last night, lights out, just a single candle

      Scared the c**p out of myself!


      Eurythmics, I'd forgotten how good DnA were!

      Playing "Touch"

      Sounds stunning through the Harbeths!

      On to "Be yourself tonight" and the track "Ball & chain" a section of the song, which on all previous kit just switches from left to right, now circles the listening position creating a sound behind me, a very strange sensation indeed!

      I've been listening to music for over six hours straight now!

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      • Re: Harbeth SHL5 specific

        Hi All,

        Can SHL5 perform well in pop, rock, heavy metal or techno music? Can the 'thin" designed wooden speaker cabinet able to sustain the vibration or pressure caused by the excessive BASS notes.... I plan to get SHL5 but just wondering if they are designed to play all types of music both classical and modern songs.TQ

        Regards,

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        • Re: Harbeth SHL5 specific

          In my opinion the Harbeths are great speakers for rock and metal (I dont listen to techno), I primarily play that type of music on my C7s and love their performance.

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          • Re: Harbeth SHL5 specific

            Originally posted by aawcy View Post
            Hi All,

            Can SHL5 perform well in pop, rock, heavy metal or techno music? Can the 'thin" designed wooden speaker cabinet able to sustain the vibration or pressure caused by the excessive BASS notes.... I plan to get SHL5 but just wondering if they are designed to play all types of music both classical and modern songs.TQ

            Regards,
            of course, SHL5 is an all-round performer; for all genre such as metal, rock, rap, urban, vocal, jazz, classical! you shouldn't be worrying about the SHL5 design, it's the recoding media that you should focus on. for example, Some CD from some well-known labels sound awful; some CD were badly recorded/master that it's not worth for playback

            reminder: get a veneer/color that u'll fancy because u gonna keep'em for a long time.

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            • Re: Harbeth SHL5 specific

              Originally posted by coredump View Post
              reminder: get a veneer/color that u'll fancy because u gonna keep'em for a long time.
              Veneer selections are limited to Cherry (std.) and eucalyptus only.

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              • Re: Harbeth SHL5 specific

                In my experience the HL5s work really really well with rock 'n' roll, soul, R&B and techno, from early Alice Cooper to Sam Cooke to Carl Craig. Again, there are many factors; the source recording/mastering, the room, the gear etc. But I will say this, once I got mine set up properly I knew there wasn't another speaker in the world for me.

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                • Re: Harbeth SHL5 specific

                  My own new SHL5s have arrived :D

                  Not much to add, other than they sound the same as the demo pair and a graphic warning not to leave them in direct sunlight!

                  Demo speaker


                  My new ones



                  Plus the gratuitous nekkid shot!

                  Many thanks to all at Harbeth and the user group.
                  Attached Files

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                  • Re: Harbeth SHL5 specific

                    Originally posted by Stephen PG View Post

                    My own new SHL5s have arrived :D
                    Hi Stephen,
                    I wish you a lot of fun and many undisturbed hours of plesure with your favorite music!

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                    • Re: Harbeth SHL5 specific

                      Hi Stephen,
                      Thanks for the photos. I like the one showed the woodgrain.
                      Enjoy your musics and hope you got enough sleep!

                      cheers!

                      PS: Your new shl5 woodgrain will become as nice as the demo pair after some time. I like cherry.
                      Last edited by keithwwk; 03-05-2009, 03:48 PM. Reason: add PS
                      "Bath with Music"

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                      • Re: Harbeth SHL5 specific

                        Hi keithwwk,

                        Thanks for the advice on placement of the SHL-5. I figured out the speakers will sound better with more space between them as I initially got a rather congested, or should I say restricted soundstage when I placed them about 6 feet apart. After I moved them further apart, the soundstage opened up and the sound became more natural. Maybe some day when I have the opportunity I will move them to a bigger room and get that elusive 7' separation.

                        I have been digging out most of my old CDs from the racks and was stunned by the musicality, coherency and neutrality of the Super HL-5's. Some of my unlistenable CDs are now pretty acceptable on the listening scale. I popped in one of the mass-market crap that I got some time ago which was only played less than 30 minutes before it was put aside and never played again, and the results were pretty remarkable. The album was by Gwen Stefani(don't laugh). When I played my favourite track "4am In The Morning", the vocals sound a lot more natural and believable. Unfortunately the horrendous amount of digital bass still ruins the whole thing. All other types of music sound really good. Most important, the tonal balance and timbre accuracy have been superb with the SHL-5. I think I have made a right choice in choosing the Harbeth.

                        I've read that the LFD and Lavardin amps when paired with the Compact 7ES-3 are a match made in heaven. I am wondering whether these amps will sound better than my Plinius amp in driving the SHL-5 or not. I've checked out the Lavardin IT integrated and it's a rather well-built unit.

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                        • Re: Harbeth SHL5 specific

                          Thanks Vlado & keithwwk,

                          I've posted another pic in the "Photos of your beloved Harbeth Speakers & Setup" thread, gives a better view of the room layout.

                          Sleep? Harbeth users don't need sleep!

                          :?)

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                          • Re: Harbeth SHL5 specific

                            Originally posted by ryder View Post
                            Hi keithwwk,

                            Thanks for the advice on placement of the SHL-5. I figured out the speakers will sound better with more space between them as I initially got a rather congested, or should I say restricted soundstage when I placed them about 6 feet apart. After I moved them further apart, the soundstage opened up and the sound became more natural. Maybe some day when I have the opportunity I will move them to a bigger room and get that elusive 7' separation.

                            I have been digging out most of my old CDs from the racks and was stunned by the musicality, coherency and neutrality of the Super HL-5's. Some of my unlistenable CDs are now pretty acceptable on the listening scale. I popped in one of the mass-market crap that I got some time ago which was only played less than 30 minutes before it was put aside and never played again, and the results were pretty remarkable. The album was by Gwen Stefani(don't laugh). When I played my favourite track "4am In The Morning", the vocals sound a lot more natural and believable. Unfortunately the horrendous amount of digital bass still ruins the whole thing. All other types of music sound really good. Most important, the tonal balance and timbre accuracy have been superb with the SHL-5. I think I have made a right choice in choosing the Harbeth.

                            I've read that the LFD and Lavardin amps when paired with the Compact 7ES-3 are a match made in heaven. I am wondering whether these amps will sound better than my Plinius amp in driving the SHL-5 or not. I've checked out the Lavardin IT integrated and it's a rather well-built unit.
                            Personally, i feel that either Lavardin or LFD will sound quite a fair bit better than your Plinius. Both have superb tonal purity but imho, LFD is more organic & involving than Lavardin. Have a listen to both amps with SHL-5 if possible.

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                            • Re: Harbeth SHL5 specific

                              Thanks for the reply Ganck. I will keep an eye on the LFD integrated. Power rating is a little low at 60W and it doesn't come with balanced connections and outputs for a subwoofer. The LFD seems to be an obscure brand as I cannot even find the website of the manufacturer. All I read is the combination between the LFD Integrated Zero MkIII LE and Compact 7ES-3 was a match made in heaven. So great that Stereophile's reviewer Sam Tellig bought one unit himself. I guess that must tell us something. Does the unit come with a remote control?

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                              • Re: Harbeth SHL5 specific

                                Originally posted by ryder View Post
                                Thanks for the reply Ganck. I will keep an eye on the LFD integrated. Power rating is a little low at 60W and it doesn't come with balanced connections and outputs for a subwoofer. The LFD seems to be an obscure brand as I cannot even find the website of the manufacturer. All I read is the combination between the LFD Integrated Zero MkIII LE and Compact 7ES-3 was a match made in heaven. So great that Stereophile's reviewer Sam Tellig bought one unit himself. I guess that must tell us something. Does the unit come with a remote control?
                                Unfortunately, all LFD amps are very purist in design & as such, gadgets such as tone control, remote, incorporating a DAC, balanced connections & outputs for subwoofer are a big no no. If you require any of these, then i reckon LFD is not for you. I had amplifiers with remote for 10 over yrs & going over to the LE III took a little getting used to initially. Anyway, what matters most is the way this amp delivers music.

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