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  • Harbeth terminals

    I measured my spades and I measure a little bit less than 7mm between the spades. I have these: Click image for larger version

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    Officialy as stated by Cardas they have 6mm or 1/4" spades. At least those most common that are on cable by default. Source is here: please click.
    Could somebody be so kind to use caliper measurement tool (if you have of course) to measure a diameter of the Harbeth's binding posts where we can hook up the spades. I think it is not a big science . Thank you kindly in advance for this.

    Wish you best,
    Davor.

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    • Cables

      The speaker wire I have is a few years old and was made by Blue Circle Audio. At that time they used Cardas spade lugs. I measured them with a drafting ruler and they were 8mm.

      I'm away in the UK for a month so perhaps someone else will be able to measure the posts for you.

      Don

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      • File them

        Originally posted by delfinus View Post
        I measured my spades and I measure a little bit less than 7mm between the spades. I have these: [ATTACH=CONFIG]3959[/ATTACH]. Don do you have the same spades?

        Officialy as stated by Cardas they have 6mm or 1/4" spades. At least those most common that are on cable by default. Source is here: please click.
        Could somebody be so kind to use caliper measurement tool (if you have of course) to measure a diameter of the Harbeth's binding posts where we can hook up the spades. I think it is not a big science . Thank you kindly in advance for this.

        Wish you best,
        Davor.
        You could file or bend the spades to fit or simply chop them off and bare wore them , I'm sure they cost too much but I wouldn't base speaker purchase on them , ; ) best of luck

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        • Harbeth binding post dimensions (coming soom)

          Originally posted by Tinnitus View Post
          You could file or bend the spades to fit or simply chop them off and bare wore them , I'm sure they cost too much but I wouldn't base speaker purchase on them , ; ) best of luck
          I'll take a photo with dimensions of the standard Harbeth speaker terminal today if possible and make a new thread here to answer this once and for all.
          Alan A. Shaw
          Designer, owner
          Harbeth Audio UK

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          • Photos coming

            Hiya,

            this will be very much appreciated Mr. Shaw! I'm just considering to buy SHL5 plus and I like to know all the details. I Hope I was not too annoying with my question.
            I might have found the scheme of the binding post that is used in your speakers on the internet and I have a feeling that 1/4" Cardas spades will not fit. But might fit if I just stick one tip of the spade in the hole and then tighten. I might also buy and use Cardas spade to banana adapter (CAB). But ok that is again another contact and surface and I would like to avoid multiple surfaces and connectors.

            @Tannitus, no I will not modify these cables as they have value if I might resale them at some point. They serve me also very good and I would like to keep them. Anyway cables will not obstruct me if I decide to pick up Harbeth speakers.

            I will see, still need to decide and get some courage together to pull a trigger as I'm doing more or less on a blind as I don't have a chance to audition SHL5 plus.

            best, d.

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            • Why worry?

              Seems a shame to worry about the spades and delay purchase of the wonderful SHL5+ because the speakers are so good, you won't bother about connections any more.

              Worst case with the Cardas spades is that you might need to do as you mention - just use one leg of the spade in the hole.

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              • Made to measure cables

                Alternatively, Blue Jeans Cable Company or similar - look for 10-12 AWG copper cable, and for less than you know, you might get a v good match indeed.

                They can be made exactly to length, and be tinned at the amp end, and spades, plugs or bare wire left at the speaker end.

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                • Harbeth binding posts

                  The dimensions of the standard Harbeth binding posts are detailed here.
                  Alan A. Shaw
                  Designer, owner
                  Harbeth Audio UK

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                  • Thanks, and ordered SHL5+

                    Thank you Mr. Shaw for this and just posted my thanks also there. I think I will have very musical holidays ahead of me as I just decided for beautiful SHL5+ in tiger ebony which will be arriving very soon too.

                    Hope I will receive a magic of music I was searching for all my life.
                    kind regards, d.

                    best, d.

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                    • Long term pleasure

                      A very wise choice. Stand by for many years of sublime listening.

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                      • Music, not hifi gear any more

                        Hi dave, yes I want exactly that . I just want to forget about my hi-fi equipment once and for all and just enjoy music. I'm coming from Anthony Gallo Reference 3.5 which I had for 5 years and now turned to Harbeth as something new and different. I wanted to do 180 degrees turn and make my system also more classic looking and simple. Will be connected to Gryphon Callisto 2200 and Musical Fidelity NuVista CD, so I hope for the best in that relation.

                        Will have them already tomorrow, but no time to connect them until the end of week; work . Probably I will post some pics and impressions later when all will be ready .
                        Have fun,
                        D

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                        • Ho ho ho!!

                          Santa came early this year .

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                          • Enjoy Santa's delivery"

                            Nice looking cartons delfinus, but hope you'll follow up with pics of the contents in their new home! ;)
                            TOTALLY ENJOY!!!! Merry Christmas!! :D

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