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"This Harbeth User Group (HUG) is the Manufacturer's own managed forum dedicated to natural sound, realisable by controlling the confounding variables between tthe microphone and the listeners' ears.

For example, the design of and interaction between the hifi amplifier and its speaker load can and potentially will alter the sound balance of what you hear. To reproduce the sounds captured by the recording microphones, as Harbeth speakers are designed to do, you would naturally select system components (sources, electronics, cables and so on) that do not color the sound before it reaches the speakers.

Identifying components for their system neutrality should, logically, start with the interpretation and analysis of their technical, objective performance, as any and every deviation from a measurably flat frequency response at any point along the serial chain from microphone to ear is very likely to cause the total system to have an audible sonic personality. That includes the contribution of the listening room itself.

HUG specialises in making complex technical matters simple to understand, aiding the identification of audio components likely to maintain a faithful relationship between the recorded sound and the sound you hear. With our heritage of natural sound, HUG cannot be really be expected to guide in the selection, approval, endorsement or even discussion of equipment that is intend to introduce a significantly personalised sound to the audio signal chain. For that you should do your own research and above all, make the effort to visit an Authorised Dealer and listen to your music at your loudness on your loudspeakers through the various electronics offered there. There is no on-line substitute for that time investment in a dealer's showroom.

If you desire to intentionally tune your system sound to your personal taste, please consider carefully how much you should rely upon the subjective opinions of strangers. Their hearing acuity and taste will be different to yours, as will be their motives and budget, their listening distance, listening loudness and listening room treatment, not necessarily leading to appropriate equipment selection and listening satisfaction for you.

Alternatively, if faithfully reproducing the sound intended by the composer, score, conductor and musicians over your speakers is your audio dream, then understanding something of the issues likely to fulfill that objective is what this forum has been helping with since 2006. Welcome!"


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  • #76
    Re: SHL5 and Sugden A21a

    Hi Phil . If you're still out there , I have had a similar experience with the Compact 7 and an A21a . The solution in my case was more power . Once power was applied the voices and instruments have more body and a greater sense of vitality . The low frequencies solidify and the overall balance makes much more sense !

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    • #77
      Re: SHL5 and Sugden A21a

      I also had a similar situation using the Quad 909 amp with 99 CDP cd player with my Compact 7ES2 speakers. The 99 CDP was driving the amp direct through it's variable outputs. The sound was easy to listen to, but was a little lean. This was remedied by inserting a preamp in between the CD player and the amp. The sound remains as nice as it was except that I have more drive, more bottom end, and improved image. In my case, the preamp is a Lehmann Linear headphone amp that also functions as a single input preamp.

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      • #78
        SHL5 celebratory edition?

        I read on the Soundstage web site that after " the Compact 7ES3, Harbeth will release more new celebratory speakers" as well. I've had a pair SHL5 on order for some time. Has anyone heard if the SHL5 are to receive "celebratory"update in the coming months? I would be very disapointed if a new celebratory-30th anniversary version of the SHL5 came to market just months after I take home a pair of SHL5s home.

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        • #79
          Re: Super HL5

          I read on the Soundstage web site that after " the Compact 7ES3, Harbeth will release more new celebratory speakers" as well. I've had a pair SHL5 on order for some time. Has anyone heard if the SHL5 are to receive "celebratory"update in the coming months? I would be very disapointed if a new celebratory-30th anniversary version of the SHL5 came to market just months after I take home a pair of SHL5s home.

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          • #80
            Re: Super HL5

            What about the 50th anniversary models? I heard they're going to be quite special ;)

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            • #81
              Super HL5, Skylan stands, Leben 600 integrated amp

              Hi Guys,

              A while ago one of the posters asked if anyone had a photo of Super HL5's with the Tiger Ebony finish, and since I just got a pair (yippee!) I thought I'd post the photo for you to see. It's towards the bottom of the page so you'll have to scroll down a bit to see it.

              http://www.6moons.com/audioreviews/bo06/jeff.html

              The stands in the photo are the 18" Skylan stands that Noel Nolan makes special for the HL5's, and they really work great.

              I also remember someone asking about using a Leben integrated amplifier with Harbeths, and if it's a nice match. I've got my HL5's in a small 12 ft x 12 ft room at the moment and am using the 30 watt Leben 600 integrated with them. The Leben doesn't seem as powerful as you would expect given its 30 watt rating, but it's plenty for HL5's in the small room they're in now. I'll try them in my larger room before long, so I'll find out if the Leben has enough power for a larger room then.

              Best,

              Jeff

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              • #82
                Re: Super HL5, Skylan stands, Leben 600 integrated amp

                Just a little follow up: I put the HL5's out in my living room (20 ft l x 17 ft w x 17 h) and hooked up a Shindo Arome CD matching tranny, Monbrison preamp, and Cortese amp with about 10 watts output. Used all Shindo interconnects and Auditorium 23 speaker cables. As a source I used a Red Wine Audio modified Olive Musica music server that runs on batteries. The combination is very nice and can play louder than I would normally listen to. Very nice! I don't think you'll have to worry much about amp power with the HL5's, you can instead go for quality.

                Happy Holidays,

                Jeff

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                • #83
                  Re: Super HL5, Skylan stands, Leben 600 integrated amp

                  Hi Jeff,

                  Nice Gibson! Yours?

                  Don Leman

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                  • #84
                    Re: Super HL5, Skylan stands, Leben 600 integrated amp

                    Thanks! It's a Gibson Advanced Jumbo (Brazilian and Adirondack) and I play it every day. It's got tone that just doesn't stop. Just thinking about it makes me want to go lay hands on it! :-)

                    Cheers,

                    Jeff

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                    • #85
                      Re: Super HL5, Skylan stands, Leben 600 integrated amp

                      My compliments for your article Jeff!

                      .. Merry Christmas and Happy New Year from Italy

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                      • #86
                        Re: Super HL5, Skylan stands, Leben 600 integrated amp

                        Thanks for posting the photo. The Tiger veneer is stunning, and I know you're going to love the SHL5's! They truly live up to their name, since they are super speakers. Best wishes for the New Year -

                        Ned

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                        • #87
                          Re: Super HL5, Skylan stands, Leben 600 integrated amp

                          Thanks for the kind words, Arlequen, appreciated. Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year to you too! :-)

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                          • #88
                            Re: Super HL5, Skylan stands, Leben 600 integrated amp

                            Hi Ned,

                            You're welcome! I really like the Supers (although I have to say I've liked every Harbeth I've heard to date). It's Christmas morning here in snowy Eastern Washington State, and I'm drinking a nice fireside espresso and listening to an old Sinatra Christmas album. The Harbeth Super HL5's are sounding mighty fine with the Shindo Cortese amp, Monbrison pre, Arome CD matching tranny (it's like a Manley Steelhead for CD players), and Audio Logic DAC. The little Shindo amp is supposed to only have 10 watts, but even in my rather large living room it sounds more like a 100. I have no idea how it accomplishes that little trick, but it sure is nice combination with the Supers., and even at about 1/3 throttle it's plenty loud.

                            Merry Christmas and Happy New Year!

                            Jeff

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                            • #89
                              SHL5 and amplifiers ...

                              Recently I have bought a "new" amplifier. Or better: a pre-amplifier and two monoblock power amplifiers. I wrote "new", because they are new to me, but they are in fact second hand. The sound improvement is simply unbelievable!

                              I found them on the internet. Luckily, the man who was selling them, lived about 30 kilometres from my home. So I was able to meet him in his home and hear the amps. I fell in love with the sound and bought them.

                              So now I am the proud owner of an Esoteric Audio Research (EAR) 864 pre-amplifier and two EAR 509 Mk II monoblock power amplifiers. I consider myself lucky, because if I would have to buy them new, I couldn't afford these amps.
                              Of course they have been checked by an expert, who was also very excited about them. Everything was OK, including the tubes.

                              The sound is detailed, natural, relaxed. Relaxed means: not too forward, not "in your face", but doesn't mean laid back. The bass is powerful (more powerful than most people expect from a tube-amplifier), controlled, not flabby, and by no means dominating, the treble is stress-free and beautiful. But the most wonderful is the mid-area, which is absolutely terrific.

                              The words "High End" don't mean that much to me, especially since everybody seams to have their own opinion about the definition of "High End", but the expert who checked my amplifiers said to me, that he thought this to be a set of true High End amplifiers, without sounding like High End.
                              When I asked him what he meant, he told me, that most so-called High End equipment sounds so excessively detailed (and often "dry"), that you only hear a lot of details, without hearing the entire picture of the music. He said, that this EAR combination is for music lovers. People who listen to music instead of testing signals.

                              Well, that is exactly what I want. I listen to music. That is why I bought my Harbeth SHL5's.
                              I just wanted to share this, because after searching for a better amplifier and listening to approximately 18 amplifiers over the last year, I am very lucky with the perfect match between the Harbeth SHL5's and the EAR 864 & 509 Mk II.

                              J.A. Boonstra
                              The Netherlands

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                              • #90
                                Re: Super HL5

                                Here for you ... Boonstra

                                http://www.positive-feedback.com/Issue6/ear864.htm

                                My compliments for your new tubey animals ;-)

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