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  • A.S.
    started a topic Harbeth SHL5 specific

    Harbeth SHL5 specific

    This thread specifically relates to the SuperHL5
    Last edited by A.S.; 23-09-2006, 09:30 AM.

  • elviejo
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    Enjoy Santa's delivery"

    Nice looking cartons delfinus, but hope you'll follow up with pics of the contents in their new home! ;)
    TOTALLY ENJOY!!!! Merry Christmas!! :D

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  • delfinus
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    Ho ho ho!!

    Santa came early this year .

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  • delfinus
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    Music, not hifi gear any more

    Hi dave, yes I want exactly that . I just want to forget about my hi-fi equipment once and for all and just enjoy music. I'm coming from Anthony Gallo Reference 3.5 which I had for 5 years and now turned to Harbeth as something new and different. I wanted to do 180 degrees turn and make my system also more classic looking and simple. Will be connected to Gryphon Callisto 2200 and Musical Fidelity NuVista CD, so I hope for the best in that relation.

    Will have them already tomorrow, but no time to connect them until the end of week; work . Probably I will post some pics and impressions later when all will be ready .
    Have fun,
    D

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  • hifi_dave
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    Long term pleasure

    A very wise choice. Stand by for many years of sublime listening.

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  • delfinus
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    Thanks, and ordered SHL5+

    Thank you Mr. Shaw for this and just posted my thanks also there. I think I will have very musical holidays ahead of me as I just decided for beautiful SHL5+ in tiger ebony which will be arriving very soon too.

    Hope I will receive a magic of music I was searching for all my life.
    kind regards, d.

    best, d.

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  • A.S.
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    Harbeth binding posts

    The dimensions of the standard Harbeth binding posts are detailed here.

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  • gabsiechan
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    Made to measure cables

    Alternatively, Blue Jeans Cable Company or similar - look for 10-12 AWG copper cable, and for less than you know, you might get a v good match indeed.

    They can be made exactly to length, and be tinned at the amp end, and spades, plugs or bare wire left at the speaker end.

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  • hifi_dave
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    Why worry?

    Seems a shame to worry about the spades and delay purchase of the wonderful SHL5+ because the speakers are so good, you won't bother about connections any more.

    Worst case with the Cardas spades is that you might need to do as you mention - just use one leg of the spade in the hole.

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  • delfinus
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    Photos coming

    Hiya,

    this will be very much appreciated Mr. Shaw! I'm just considering to buy SHL5 plus and I like to know all the details. I Hope I was not too annoying with my question.
    I might have found the scheme of the binding post that is used in your speakers on the internet and I have a feeling that 1/4" Cardas spades will not fit. But might fit if I just stick one tip of the spade in the hole and then tighten. I might also buy and use Cardas spade to banana adapter (CAB). But ok that is again another contact and surface and I would like to avoid multiple surfaces and connectors.

    @Tannitus, no I will not modify these cables as they have value if I might resale them at some point. They serve me also very good and I would like to keep them. Anyway cables will not obstruct me if I decide to pick up Harbeth speakers.

    I will see, still need to decide and get some courage together to pull a trigger as I'm doing more or less on a blind as I don't have a chance to audition SHL5 plus.

    best, d.

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  • A.S.
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    Harbeth binding post dimensions (coming soom)

    Originally posted by Tinnitus View Post
    You could file or bend the spades to fit or simply chop them off and bare wore them , I'm sure they cost too much but I wouldn't base speaker purchase on them , ; ) best of luck
    I'll take a photo with dimensions of the standard Harbeth speaker terminal today if possible and make a new thread here to answer this once and for all.

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  • Tinnitus
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    File them

    Originally posted by delfinus View Post
    I measured my spades and I measure a little bit less than 7mm between the spades. I have these: [ATTACH=CONFIG]3959[/ATTACH]. Don do you have the same spades?

    Officialy as stated by Cardas they have 6mm or 1/4" spades. At least those most common that are on cable by default. Source is here: please click.
    Could somebody be so kind to use caliper measurement tool (if you have of course) to measure a diameter of the Harbeth's binding posts where we can hook up the spades. I think it is not a big science . Thank you kindly in advance for this.

    Wish you best,
    Davor.
    You could file or bend the spades to fit or simply chop them off and bare wore them , I'm sure they cost too much but I wouldn't base speaker purchase on them , ; ) best of luck

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  • dmleman
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    Cables

    The speaker wire I have is a few years old and was made by Blue Circle Audio. At that time they used Cardas spade lugs. I measured them with a drafting ruler and they were 8mm.

    I'm away in the UK for a month so perhaps someone else will be able to measure the posts for you.

    Don

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  • delfinus
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    Harbeth terminals

    I measured my spades and I measure a little bit less than 7mm between the spades. I have these: Click image for larger version

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    Officialy as stated by Cardas they have 6mm or 1/4" spades. At least those most common that are on cable by default. Source is here: please click.
    Could somebody be so kind to use caliper measurement tool (if you have of course) to measure a diameter of the Harbeth's binding posts where we can hook up the spades. I think it is not a big science . Thank you kindly in advance for this.

    Wish you best,
    Davor.

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  • delfinus
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    Thanks

    Thanks Don, much appreaciated. I will check when I come from my trip. Best, D.

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