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The Harbeth User Group is the primary channel for public communication with Harbeth's HQ. If you have a 'scientific mind' and are curious about how the ear works, how it can lead us to make the right - and wrong - audio equipment decisions, and about the technical ins and outs of audio equipment, how it's designed and what choices the designer makes, then the factual Science of Audio sub-forum area of HUG is your place. The objective methods of comparing audio equipment under controlled conditions has been thoroughly examined here on HUG and elsewhere and should be accessible to non-experts and able to be tried-out at home without deep technical knowledge. From a design perspective, today's award winning Harbeths could not have been designed any other way.

Alternatively, if you just like chatting about audio and subjectivity rules for you, then the Subjective Soundings area is you. If you are quite set in your subjectivity, then HUG is likely to be a bit too fact based for you, as many of the contributors have maximised their pleasure in home music reproduction by allowing their head to rule their heart. If upon examination we think that Posts are better suited to one sub-forum than than the other, they will be redirected during Moderation, which is applied throughout the site.

Questions and Posts about, for example, 'does amplifier A sounds better than amplifier B' or 'which speaker stands or cables are best' are suitable for the Subjective Soundings area only, although HUG is really not the best place to have these sort of purely subjective airings.

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How Well Can You Hear Audio Quality?

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  • How Well Can You Hear Audio Quality?

    Here’s an interesting compression test to try:
    http://www.npr.org/sections/therecor...-audio-quality

    After you take the test - here are the results:
    http://www.npr.org/sections/therecor...ssing-randomly

  • #2
    Good example of the effects of different bit rates

    I took this test about a week ago and scored 6 out of 6 correct. DAC was the D/A section of an AD1984A chip integrated on the PC motherboard. Speakers were Logitech X-140.

    The 128k version of the Mozart clip seemed to make the piano sound as though it was out of tune. The Jay-Z clip was almost painful to endure at any resolution.

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    • #3
      Overall, poor

      Originally posted by IMF+TDL View Post
      I took this test about a week ago and scored 6 out of 6 correct. DAC was the D/A section of an AD1984A chip integrated on the PC motherboard. Speakers were Logitech X-140.

      The 128k version of the Mozart clip seemed to make the piano sound as though it was out of tune. The Jay-Z clip was almost painful to endure at any resolution.
      I confess I missed on a couple, but the ones I missed on (the Jay-Z track being one of them) sounded awful to me at any resolution.

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      • #4
        Flawed comparisons?

        I've read a good review of the npr test on hd audio by a recording engineer which refutes this test as well as the results due to the use of flawed audio files after his spectrum analysis. I'd be interested to anyone else has reD and can agree with his thoughts?

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        • #5
          Compressed music and recompression

          Originally posted by EricW View Post
          I confess I missed on a couple, but the ones I missed on (the Jay-Z track being one of them) sounded awful to me at any resolution.
          I missed the Jay Z one, too. It reifies my belief that the extra bandwidth of lossless is pretty much wasted if one listens primarily to heavily compressed and highly processed music.

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