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Resembling High End Audio and Art - Would High End audio experts make similar mistakes?

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  • Resembling High End Audio and Art - Would High End audio experts make similar mistakes?

    Watch this Dutch made short TV impression to discover certain analogies between judging art and judging audio equipment.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=4BlLX03OJRU


    Why?

  • #2
    They do make similar mistakes - all the time. And that is all the more disturbing because in audio there is an objective standard.

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    • #3
      Everything bar audio

      Originally posted by willem View Post
      They do make similar mistakes - all the time. And that is all the more disturbing because in audio there is an objective standard.
      My wife and I have very different tastes in art and have had major rows in public when I tell her I wouldn't buy it even if it was in IKEA.

      Louise Bougeois and Anselm Keifer (sorry William, don't take it personally) are two notable examples.

      She also has a habit of buying prints and lithographs that she likes for my birthday.

      The good thing is that women don't seem to have an audio gene, so there is nothing to argue about.

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      • #4
        Prentending to each other

        winfried, great example and the simularities are certainly there..

        -it is all about the context and expectations
        -most of us have no clue
        -subjective
        -it is all about pretending to be special, intellectual,..

        most of all: no conclusive theories about the art of Ike Andrews

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        • #5
          No audio standards?

          Maybe the analogy is just slightly off the mark?

          One would be tempted to point out that the technically correct parallel would be between equipment used for producing art (easels, canvas, brushes) and audio equipment. Music has no objective standard - at least for the vast majority who listens to real music. But equipment used in producing, recording and reproducing music do have objective standards, in the sense that they are measurable against a benchmark.

          Now, of course, there is one philosophical problem. Unlike the "standard" for a metre, there is no universal standard or benchmark for "how audio equipment should behave".

          Some people are right in choosing high fidelity (highest faithfulness to the original signal) as the benchmark. Some may disagree and claim what sounds pleasant is more important.

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