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"This Harbeth User Group (HUG) is the Manufacturer's own managed forum dedicated to natural sound from microphone to ear, achievable by recognising and controlling the numerous confounding variables that exist along the audio chain. The Harbeth designer's objective is to make loudspeakers that contribute little of themselves to the music passing through them.

Identifying system components for their sonic neutrality should logically proceed from the interpretation and analysis of their technical, objective performance. Deviations from a flat frequency response at any point along the signal chain from microphone to ear is likely to give an audible sonic personality to the system at your ear; this includes the significant contribution of the listening room itself. To accurately reproduce the recorded sound as Harbeth speakers are designed to do, you would be best advised to select system components (sources, electronics, cables and so on) that do not color the sound before it reaches the speakers.

For example, the design of and interaction between the hifi amplifier and its speaker load can and will alter the sound balance of what you hear. This may or may not be what you wish to achieve, but any deviation from a flat response is a step away from a truly neutral system. HUG has extensively discussed amplifiers and the methods for seeking the most objectively neutral among a plethora of product choices.

HUG specialises in making complex technical matters simple to understand, getting at the repeatable facts in a post-truth environment where objectivity is increasingly ridiculed. With our heritage of natural sound and pragmatic design, HUG is not the best place to discuss non-Harbeth audio components selected, knowingly or not, to introduce a significantly personalised system sound. For that you should do your own research and above all, make the effort to visit an Authorised Dealer and listen to your music at your loudness on your loudspeakers through the various offerings there. There is really no on-line substitute for time invested in a dealer's showroom because 'tuning' your system to taste is such a highly personal matter. Our overall objective here is to empower readers to make the factually best procurement decisions in the interests of lifelike music at home.

Please consider carefully how much you should rely upon and be influenced by the subjective opinions of strangers. Their hearing acuity and taste will be different to yours, as will be their motives and budget, their listening distance, loudness and room treatment, not necessarily leading to appropriate equipment selection and listening satisfaction for you. Always keep in mind that without basic test equipment, subjective opinions will reign unchallenged. With test equipment, universal facts and truths are exposed.

If some of the science behind faithfully reproducing the sound intended by the composer, score, conductor and musicians over Harbeth speakers is your thing, this forum has been helping with that since 2006. If you just want to share your opinions and photos with others then the unrelated Harbeth Speakers Facebook page http://bit.ly/2FEgoAy may be for you. Either way, welcome to the world of Harbeth!"


Feb. 2018
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  • #91
    Tail wags dog?

    So you can choose your room, that's luxury !

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    • #92
      My positioning

      Originally posted by DSRANCE View Post
      Umm, I mean no disrespect I promise you, but you 'picked up' some C7ES-3's and just hope they'll work in your room?

      Forgive me for the above - I'll try to help as best I can from my recent experiences of the range...

      Of all the current range, I think the C7ES-3 needs most care in positioning. I'm not sure they're as happy as 30.1's or even SHL5's (either version) in a small typical UK build room (all concrete, brick and plaster), but in the far east and possibly US with larger rooms, wooden construct or more bass-absorbent listening spaces, the C7 seems to go down a storm and owners sing their praises here month after month. I really don't think you can just plonk them down close to a rear wall and expect perfection in the bass to midrange balance.

      I honestly believe that this model of all of them needs some breathing space around them (half a metre from walls at least is my general gut feeling) and a set of lightweight open-frame type stands is my personal recommendation, rather than heavy mass loaded jobbies. Obviously, since no two rooms are ever alike, you'll just have to suck it and see I'm afraid.

      Hope you find you like them...
      The C7ES-3's as of now are 7ft apart and 16" from back walls and 18" away from side walls and I sit 13ft away.

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      • #93
        Ok

        That config should sound just fine. C7ES3 are my goto speakers in any room from 20-60 sqm.: music lovers' speakers, and very versatile. If they sound too poweful in the bass: try more power in the amplifiers = even more control (2x50w should do, however)

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        • #94
          The perfect spot

          Originally posted by RodneyU View Post
          The C7ES-3's as of now are 7ft apart and 16" from back walls and 18" away from side walls and I sit 13ft away.
          I listen to compact 7s in a typical uk living room - my speakers are about 1.2m (4ft) apart and i sit about 6ft away - try bringing the speakers a little more off the back wall i find this position one that i return to again and again - enjoy

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          • #95
            Tube 65W

            Originally posted by oes77 View Post
            That config should sound just fine. C7ES3 are my goto speakers in any room from 20-60 sqm.: music lovers' speakers, and very versatile. If they sound too powerful in the bass: try more power in the amplifiers = even more control (2x50w should do, however)
            Im using a pair of tube mono blocks 65w each

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