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Feb. 2018
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Proud new 30.2 owner!

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  • Proud new 30.2 owner!

    So today I just placed an order for a pair of Harbeth 30.2 40th anniversary edition speakers from my local hifi shop.

    The distributor told my dealer that they are unsure if there are any extra 30.2 units available at the factory.

    Mr. Alan Shaw sir, PLEASE try to see if you can ensure that an extra pair makes it with the shipment to Canada!!!! PLEASE!!!! >_<

    I don't want to wait 3 months!!! I really hope there's an extra pair you can send my way... from what the dealer was telling me, its like there's a 50/50 chance I'll get my speakers with the upcoming shipment out to Canada. If they don't come then I'll have to wait for the next batch which is at the most 3 months and probably a full 3 months since they are so limited run...

    If its any help, I'm told that Audio Alliance is the canadian distributor...

  • #2
    Now that Rosie Gooch, our new Business Development Manager is really digging-in to business stats here (incl. sales records) we see that certain markets have not been 'on board' with the Anniversary speakers, while for us here at HQ, they have been a transformative experience in terms of sales. So this is now on the radar, masked by the overall success of the series, so we are probing the issue carefully to really understand what's going on. It looks mighty odd to me.

    I'm sure we will not disappoint you. Thanks for your confidence and the order.
    Alan A. Shaw
    Designer, owner
    Harbeth Audio UK

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    • #3
      The Canadian Harbeth distributor certainly seems to be "on board" with the Monitor 30.2 model: https://www.audioallianceinc.com/col...-30-2-speakers
      Likewise, for this Toronto area Harbeth dealer: https://www.planetofsoundonline.com/...-30-2-speakers
      Is this the one suggesting that product availability is somewhat indeterminate?
      Sometimes (lack of) product availability at a local dealer is a function of certain business issues entirely unrelated to production levels at the factory.
      Has the OP tried contacting the Harbeth distributor to inquire which Canadian dealers, if any, have already received the 30.2 speakers?

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      • #4
        When I changed my SHL5+ for SHL5+ 40th Anniversary I sold the SHL5+ to a chap in Chicago. I'm in London, UK. I used a UK agency recommended by Dave who made the transaction work in terms of cost. I understand their modus operandi is to make commercial shipping rates available to consumers. Everyone was happy.

        It is not ideal, but a bit of goodwill between distributor and customer (and Harbeth to the extent of their normal shipping costs) might make individual consignments possible as an exception to keep people happy. Just an idea.

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        • #5
          If the OP is unable to acquire a set of the 30.2 speakers through the normal channels, then there is a listing presently on Audiogon by someone located in Vancouver BC selling a month-old pair of the 30.2.
          https://www.audiogon.com/listings/li...akers-monitors

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          • #6
            As I already said, I placed my order with my dealer (planetofsound) already. Since they consider it a 'special order' item, they require full deposit. In essence, I've paid for it and am now at the mercy of the distributor. They've told me that they have a pair coming for me, we shall see. Better to hold off expectation in order to avoid disappointment. The whole situation seems kind of weird to me. I mean, I get that the 30.2 is 'exclusive', this is a word that the dealer used like 20 times. They kept throwing around the phrase 'they are hard to get' like ok hard to get... so is he telling me that the distributor is having a hard time getting them from Harbeth directly? I wonder why.

            They also told me that they were limited to 40 units for the whole country. Something like 10 speakers per territory. I'm not quite sure what to make with that info... are they telling me that they receive 40 pairs of speakers per shipment? Seems like such an arbitrary number...

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            • #7
              A public forum is not really the right place for any of us to discuss the back-office story, when even we at Harbeth HQ simply do not understand the full picture, nor appreciate why a golden opportunity like the 40th Anniversary is not universally promoted across our entire network. We have on board a Business Development Manger now, and she reports to the management team regularly as to what she has found.

              No, the 40th Anniversaary speakers, nor any other Harbeth's are difficult to get. They are in demand certainly, and this puts pressure on our production department. Yes, our QC standards are exceptionally high (we build to last - period) and yes, that does mean that we sometimes get a bit behind. But (unusually) we never ask for financial deposits from our customers, and hence any local deposit arrangement is to be certain that the end user is committed, and that's fair enough in a fickle industry.

              The situation in Canada is unusual, and I have yet to fully understand it. Our position is that the Anniversary Series was a global launch, and we have invested more effort and energy in bringing them to market than in any previous series.

              I can personally assure you that you will receive your speakers, and I would ask for the Order Confirmation Number issued by Harbeth UK upon logging every new order. With that, you can be confident that your pair is indeed in the pipeline.
              Alan A. Shaw
              Designer, owner
              Harbeth Audio UK

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              • #8
                I was simply trying to make you aware of the situation on my end, Mr. Alan Shaw. Aside from a short period of time when I wasn't sure if I was going to receive my speakers in 4 weeks or 12 weeks, I've been very patient. I mean, I did put $7k as a "deposit" I think it's only fair to get the full backstory if I was going to receive my pair sooner or just soon. Apologies if I came across im a crass manner, I'm just very VERY excited to get a pair!

                ps. What is the order confirmation number you speak of?

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                • #9
                  Forgot to add, I know I brought up that I paid for a deposit but I wasn't trying to put that out there like that's a bad thing. I totally understand if something "exclusive and hard to get" requires a bit more effort than normal to get what you want. In a way, I think all of the effort I spent to get myself a pair of 30.2 will make the eventual arrival just that much more special. As well,

                  Again, thanks very much Mr. Alan Shaw for taking time out of your busy day to set my mind at ease.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by irisaurus View Post
                    As I already said, I placed my order with my dealer (planetofsound) already. Since they consider it a 'special order' item, they require full deposit. In essence, I've paid for it and am now at the mercy of the distributor. They've told me that they have a pair coming for me, we shall see. Better to hold off expectation in order to avoid disappointment. The whole situation seems kind of weird to me. I mean, I get that the 30.2 is 'exclusive', this is a word that the dealer used like 20 times. They kept throwing around the phrase 'they are hard to get' like ok hard to get... so is he telling me that the distributor is having a hard time getting them from Harbeth directly?
                    Originally posted by A.S. View Post
                    But (unusually) we never ask for financial deposits from our customers, and hence any local deposit arrangement is to be certain that the end user is committed, and that's fair enough in a fickle industry.
                    While a "limited edition", the 30.2 is nevertheless an "off-the-peg" model and is not customized for each individual buyer.

                    It's not as though one is ordering "made-to measure" clothing, where the item can't readily be resold to anyone else if the original buyer fails to follow through with the purchase.

                    If, indeed, the 30.2 is such an "exclusive" commodity, is the dealer really undertaking a huge risk by ordering them?

                    Shouldn't it be a simple matter to find another buyer eager to acquire them?

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                    • #11
                      Pleasure to help.

                      I completely empathise with your concern. The 'Order Confirmation Number' is issued by Harbeth HQ in accordance with ISO9001 best practice shortly after we receive the customer order and we have planned a delivery date. You could ask your supplying store to obtain than number from the importer. That proves that the order has reached the factory.

                      I'll flag this conversation to Rosie Gooch our new Business Development Manager and ask her to keep me posted.
                      Alan A. Shaw
                      Designer, owner
                      Harbeth Audio UK

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                      • #12
                        Regarding 30.2, I recognize it is not being featured in olive wood, but is it possible to ask dealer to special order? I raise this since Harbeth has characterized “silver eucalyptus” as problematic in matching.

                        Does anyone know if anniversary edition speaker stands are still being offered?

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                        • #13
                          Silver Eucalyptus is the only finish for the M30.2. You can't order a 'special'.

                          Harbeth do not produce stands. You have probably seen Hi-Fi Racks stands used with Harbeth.

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                          • #14
                            Hi guys, infos abound. I received my speakers from my dealer just a few days ago. Someone was kind enough to drop them off for me (hint: it wasn't planetofsound)
                            I got them setup and after listening for two days here are my initial impressions and takeaway thoughts:
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                            They make the old speakers I had, kef ls50 sound like toys. The 30.2 have a much richer, more realistic and accurate presentation. They are not 'warm' nor recessed in the mids, in fact, I am hearing 50% more detail than I ever heard in the LS50. There is more texture to every instrument string plucked, every reed or mouth piece blown into. It's crazy, I'm discovering new sounds in my favourite songs. Really wonderful to rexperience all my favourite songs almost like its the first time. Placement of instruments is astonishing, everything is SO much more in focus. Bass is excellent, very well textured and powerful. I used to have 15 inch woofers and there was still less information coming out of those compared to the Harbeths. I will be writing a review on them over on superbestaudiofriends.com, I will repost it here at some point. Just thought I'd share my first impressions with you guys.

                            All and all, VERY happy, the fit and finish on the cabinets is really something special.
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