The Harbeth User Group: The objectivist's journey to the most realistic sound

HUG: Fact driven. Objective. Tolerant. Moderated.

If you consider yourself to be a Citizen Scientist in the application of causality and reason to enhancing your audio system, then this forum was created for you. So how do audio-curious Citizen Scientists think and act? They are generally suspicious of marketing, group-think and self deception. They value the truth and collect and considers facts. They don’t automatically trust their ears nor throw money at their hobby; they probe for evidence whilst recognising and respecting the emotive side of music reproduction at home.

A century of audiological investigation is freely available to everyone by internet search. Every conceivable subjective auditory experience has a rational explanation, and HUG reflects that. However, if you are deeply emotionally involved with your audio system then this pragmatic forum may appear challenging. No problem: there are many alternative audio forums elsewhere to just subjectively chat about audio.

Truly high fidelity audio components, including amplifiers and DACs can be easily and repeatedly identified using a simple methodology and basic test equipment as they do not add a sonic personality to the signal they pass, and need neither be fancy nor expensive. Please refer to the 'A', 'X' and 'Z' lists in the main section 'Which amplifier...?' for factual user experiences such as power output, features, reliability, and after-care.

Kindly remember: Although HUG has a citizen science purpose, high-end audio has a special emotional place in many lives, far beyond science and technology. Respect that please at all times.

Posts and contributors deemed to be fractious, frivolous, belittling of contributors, potentially litigious, creating needless anxiety, combative, seemingly representing commercial interests or hostile to tolerance and harmony in this Forum will be edited or rejected without notice.

“The real purpose of the scientific method is to make sure nature hasn’t misled you into thinking you know something you actually don’t know.”

"An experiment is never a failure solely because it fails to achieve predicted results. An experiment is a failure only when it also fails adequately to test the hypothesis in question, when the data it produces don't prove anything one way or another.”

― Robert M. Pirsig; Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance: An Inquiry Into Values. ISBN 0-688-00230-7

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Method for identifying truly hifi amplifiers

Working through A-B testing and the issues presented

The Harbeth User Group is owned and run by Harbeth Audio Ltd., a commercial enterprise as part of its marketing activity and posts should respect that reality. The Moderator's opinion and the Forum Rules will apply at all times.

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HUG is a different sort of audio forum. We positively discourage subjective posts discussing audio amplifiers. Objective, technical analysis is what we exist to discuss and learn from.
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